RE: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-15 Thread Gaston Benitez
! :) - Original Message - From: Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: yo _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++ > > > > >I would recommend not trying to learn

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-14 Thread C. Ulrich
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 19:12, Scott W wrote: > Books and references- > C- Already mentioned, K&R 'The C Programming Language' is 'the bible.' > This is also generally a lousy book to start with if you aren't > programming already, but an invaluable reference. Pick up another book, > wish I knew

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-12 Thread Scott W
yo _ wrote: I would recommend not trying to learn C or C++ by yourself from a book. The fastest (and best way) to learn the right stuff is to take coursework from a university or community college. Not that I like disagreeing for no good reason, but I wholeheartedly disagree with that statemen

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-12 Thread Jerry McAllister
> > >I would recommend not trying to learn C or C++ by yourself from a book. > >The fastest (and best way) to learn the right stuff is to take coursework > >from a university or community college. > > >If the courses are any good, you'll get feedback, and you'll be paced > >and challenged with p

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-12 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 11/12/03 12:09 PM, yo _ sat at the `puter and typed: > >I would recommend not trying to learn C or C++ by yourself from a book. > >The fastest (and best way) to learn the right stuff is to take coursework > >from a university or community college. > > Not that I like disagreeing for no good re

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-12 Thread yo _
I would recommend not trying to learn C or C++ by yourself from a book. The fastest (and best way) to learn the right stuff is to take coursework from a university or community college. Not that I like disagreeing for no good reason, but I wholeheartedly disagree with that statement. If the cour

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread abowhill
A decent school will start you with C as an introduction to programming then teach you basic C++ (you write your own abstract data types). On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 8:17pm alexander v p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if i've got the msg, it seems u're sugesting to go to software uni and > finish th

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread alexander v p
if i've got the msg, it seems u're sugesting to go to software uni and finish that instead c/c++ advice @ the end. back to the ?, i would go with C for starters. C++ later. alone, with books, lotsa {coffee|oj|pepsi|...|..} and good luck. coursework can help if you have time/money. $0.0153 alex p

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread abowhill
>>I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be >> better to buy? >>I first thought a book on C would be best, because the OS is written in >> C. But, now I'm not sure because I read that gcc can compile C++ too >> (so, I'm assuming C++ must get used too). >I can recommen

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 11/12/03 01:37 PM, paul van den bergen sat at the `puter and typed: > On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:54 am, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > Wow, that's a fairly complete list. Agree completely on the C/C++ > > application/philosophical differences. The book list missed one very > > useful C++ book by Josutis

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread paul van den bergen
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:54 am, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Wow, that's a fairly complete list. Agree completely on the C/C++ > application/philosophical differences. The book list missed one very > useful C++ book by Josutis, "The C++ Standard" I think. Don't have it > handy. I agree with all said so

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 12:28:32AM +, Chris Howells wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > On Tuesday 11 November 2003 23:02, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > > each other. [There is a myth that C++ is a superset of C, but this is > > not really the case.] > > C++ is

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Chris Howells
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Tuesday 11 November 2003 23:02, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > each other. [There is a myth that C++ is a superset of C, but this is > not really the case.] C++ is based on C. Any C code (providing it does not use certain key word that are reserve

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chris Howells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Monday 10 November 2003 23:23, Alex Kelly wrote: > > So, it sounds like I should probably tackle C before C++. > > Not really, there's need to learn C if you just want to learn C++. Any decent > C++ book will teach you all you need to know without l

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Chris Howells
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Monday 10 November 2003 23:23, Alex Kelly wrote: > So, it sounds like I should probably tackle C before C++. Not really, there's need to learn C if you just want to learn C++. Any decent C++ book will teach you all you need to know without le

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Daniela
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 13:54, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 11/10/03 07:12 PM, Scott W sat at the `puter and typed: > > Alex Kelly wrote: > > >I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be > > > better to buy? > > > > > >I first thought a book on C would be best, because t

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 11/10/03 07:12 PM, Scott W sat at the `puter and typed: > Alex Kelly wrote: > > >I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be better to > >buy? > > > >I first thought a book on C would be best, because the OS is written in C. But, now > >I'm not sure because I read t

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-10 Thread yo _
I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be better to buy? If you just want to start programming in FreeBSD, Learn C as well as you can. The route I took was learning basic programming skills then reading "The C Programming Language" by K&R, it's an excellent book if y

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-10 Thread Scott W
Alex Kelly wrote: I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be better to buy? I first thought a book on C would be best, because the OS is written in C. But, now I'm not sure because I read that gcc can compile C++ too (so, I'm assuming C++ must get used too). Does it e

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-10 Thread Alex Kelly
- Original Message - From: "Jerry McAllister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Alex Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++ > > > > I need to buy a

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-10 Thread Jerry McAllister
> > I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. > Which would be better to buy? This doesn't answer your C++ part of the question, but you should have the Kernighan & Ritchie "The C Programming Language" and then get something like "C A Reference Manual" (Latest edition is 5th I t

Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-10 Thread Alex Kelly
I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be better to buy? I first thought a book on C would be best, because the OS is written in C. But, now I'm not sure because I read that gcc can compile C++ too (so, I'm assuming C++ must get used too). Does it even matter? Sugg