Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-04-02 Thread Joe Greco
> On 4/2/2012 11:43 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > > As a user, you can't win. If you don't report > > a problem, you get criticized. If you report a problem but can't figure > > out how to reproduce it, you get criticized. If you can reproduce it > >

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-04-02 Thread Joe Greco
> On 03/30/2012 07:41, Joe Greco wrote: > >> On 3/29/2012 7:01 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > >>>> On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > >>>>> FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested > >>>> > >>>> As much as I'm sens

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-30 Thread Joe Greco
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:44:47 -0500, Joe Greco wrote: > > Have you migrated these hosts, or were they installed in-place and > > never moved? > > fwiw the apparent integrity of things on the VM is consistent with > > our experience too. > > VMMotion and Storag

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-30 Thread Joe Greco
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:27:31 -0500, Joe Greco wrote: > > > It also doesn't explain the experience here, where one VM basically > > crapped out but only after a migration - and then stayed crapped out. > > It would be interesting to hear about your datastore, how bu

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-30 Thread Joe Greco
> On 3/29/2012 7:01 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > >> On 3/28/2012 1:59 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > >>> FreeBSD 8-STABLE, 8.3, and 9.0 are untested > >> > >> As much as I'm sensitive to your production requirements, realistically > >> it's not li

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
t's some sort of corruption with the vmfs3 and thin provisioned disk format, but it'd be interesting to know if that's totally off-track. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. G

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
> On Thursday 29 March 2012 17:49:30 Joe Greco wrote: > > > On Thursday 29 March 2012 15:42:42 Joe Greco wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Do both 32- and 64-bit versions of FreeBSD crash? > > > > We've only seen it happen on one vir

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
> On Thursday 29 March 2012 15:42:42 Joe Greco wrote: > > > Hi, > > Do both 32- and 64-bit versions of FreeBSD crash? We've only seen it happen on one virtual machine. That was a 32-bit version. And it's not so much a crash as it is a "disk I/O hang". Th

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
ly told him to run a newer version without any such version being realistically available. WTF? You want people not to use releases that "came out over a year ago"? The generally sensible solution to that is to release RELEASEs more than once every fourteen or fifteen months. ...

Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash

2012-03-29 Thread Joe Greco
at having been said, if anyone has any brilliant ideas about what would constitute useful further steps to isolate this, I can look at recovering the faulty VM from backup and seeing if it still exhibits the problem. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.

Re: Rack-Mount Server cases

2004-08-27 Thread Joe Greco
t for most applications, but the design appears representative of the rest of their products (of which we have a number). If you're looking to buy any of these, drop me a line and I can point you right. You can get truly screwed buying them from some vendors. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net N