Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.

2012-08-20 Thread Brian W.
The pcbsd project which uses FreeBSD is another option. On Aug 20, 2012 11:31 PM, wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, James D. Parra wrote: > > I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if >> there >> is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware >> comp

Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.

2012-08-20 Thread doug
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, James D. Parra wrote: I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. If don't want to mak

Re: Building a computer for FreeBSD

2012-08-20 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:43:35 -0400 Tyler Campbell wrote: > Is there a list of parts for building a personal computer or do you > just read through the hardware list? if you use big names like Asus, nothing should go wrong. I would avoid Intel's integrated graphics. As the support for it is

Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.

2012-08-20 Thread James D. Parra
I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. If don't want to make the full commitment to building a desktop, a g

Re: Building a computer for FreeBSD

2012-08-20 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Tyler Campbell < ty...@tristatesafeandlock.com> wrote: > Is there a list of parts for building a personal computer or do you just > read through the hardware list? > Usually everything works on standard consumer hardware...defer to big name where possible eg intel

Building a computer for FreeBSD

2012-08-20 Thread Tyler Campbell
Is there a list of parts for building a personal computer or do you just read through the hardware list? Tyler Tri-State Safe and Lock 570-832-0277___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John Levine
>> Are you running pecl-APC? If so, what version? There's a major issue with >> the >> latest. > >Hmmn, that might have been it. > >I backed down to 5.3, but when I have a chance I'll try 5.4 again without >APC. Tried it without APC, didn't help. We're back to the theory that there's something

Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.

2012-08-20 Thread Aaron Kaufman
On 6:56:26PM, Locksmith wrote: > I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there > is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware > comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. The handbook is always a good place to start. http://www.

Building a FreeBSD desktop.

2012-08-20 Thread Locksmith
I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Building-a-FreeBSD-deskt

mail(1) ~R and REPLYTO

2012-08-20 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
mail(1) man page says: ~R string Use string as the Reply-To field. However, this doesn't seem to work for me. Hitting ~R doesn't have any effect at all. The man page also has: REPLYTO If set, will be used to initialize the Reply-To field for outgo- ing mess

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John R. Levine
Are you running pecl-APC? If so, what version? There's a major issue with the latest. Hmmn, that might have been it. I backed down to 5.3, but when I have a chance I'll try 5.4 again without APC. R's, John

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread Michael Powell
John R. Levine wrote: >> Then perhaps you should downgrade to lang/php53 and lang/php53-extensions >> and compare the results! > > Good thought, I just did that. Results: > > php5.3: works fine as far as I can tell > > php5.4: fails in random ways > > This suggests there is a bug in 5.4 which

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John R. Levine
Good thought, I just did that. Results: php5.3: works fine as far as I can tell php5.4: fails in random ways This suggests there is a bug in 5.4 which only is apparent on FreeBSD 8.x. I note that the packages for 8.x have gone away on the distribution server, so I expect they're not regression

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread Mark Felder
Are you running pecl-APC? If so, what version? There's a major issue with the latest. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubsc

Re: doom, quake, hexen

2012-08-20 Thread Tom Russo
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 06:28:57PM +, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the flavor, containing: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:05:17 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > > > > > > Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection > > > > which work out of the box on 9.0-STA

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Mark Felder
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:57:14 -0500, wrote: Support for "FLASH" basically sucks. Please stop trolling. I've been using flash with zero issues for 3 years. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebs

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:02 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > Then perhaps you should downgrade to lang/php53 and lang/php53-extensions >> and compare the results! >> > > Good thought, I just did that. Results: > > php5.3: works fine as far as I can tell > > php5.4: fails in random ways > > This su

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread Jerry
On 20 Aug 2012 16:46:13 - John Levine articulated: > I have a fully patche amd64 freebsd 8.3 server with apache 2.2 and > PHP 5.4.5. > > In the past day, php scripts have started failing with a variety of > random errors, they hang, errors claiming that builtins like > require_once() are not

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John R. Levine
Then perhaps you should downgrade to lang/php53 and lang/php53-extensions and compare the results! Good thought, I just did that. Results: php5.3: works fine as far as I can tell php5.4: fails in random ways This suggests there is a bug in 5.4 which only is apparent on FreeBSD 8.x. I note t

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Robison, Dave
nice ad hominem screed On 08/20/2012 12:57, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:40:40 + (UTC) > jb articulated: > >> This is a bad thing for all UNIX or UNIX-like ecosystems, performed >> under the noble flag of "progress" to neutralize and fight opposition. > Do you have any idea how idioti

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:40:40 + (UTC) jb articulated: > This is a bad thing for all UNIX or UNIX-like ecosystems, performed > under the noble flag of "progress" to neutralize and fight opposition. Do you have any idea how idiotic that statement sounds? What are you planning on doing? Are you g

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:18 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > I've done all the usual voodoo repair: I have rebuilt apache, php, and >>> all the php modules from source, and rebooted, and it didn't help. >>> >> > Did you also rebuilt lang/php5-extensions for the modules you need? >> > > Uh, yes, I

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
== jb wrote on Mon 20.Aug'12 at 17:40:40 + == > The end effect is, they consciously want to screw up Linux and non-Linux > (UNIX, > *BSD, etc) ecosystems that opt not to follow them (read some additional > comments that appeared in the meantime in the comments section of > Distrowatch). > Th

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John R. Levine
I've done all the usual voodoo repair: I have rebuilt apache, php, and all the php modules from source, and rebooted, and it didn't help. Did you also rebuilt lang/php5-extensions for the modules you need? Uh, yes, I said that I did. Regards, John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:46 PM, John Levine wrote: > I have a fully patche amd64 freebsd 8.3 server with apache 2.2 and PHP > 5.4.5. > > In the past day, php scripts have started failing with a variety of random > errors, > they hang, errors claiming that builtins like require_once() are not > f

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Josh Tolbert
games/quake2max is a good one...At least it was years ago when I tried it. I see nothing in the Makefile that will prevent it from building on amd64. Cheers, Josh On 8/20/12 12:16 PM, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:05:17 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: Polytropon wrote: Please advis

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Victor Sudakov
Polytropon wrote: > > > > > I could also play Quake, Quake 2 from ports, > > > > > and Jedi Knight II via wine. > > > > > > > > Oh, is there really nothing native? > > > > > > No, that game is far too old, but Quake and Quake 2 have ports > > > (to native FreeBSD) which work very nicely with the

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread RW
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:09:15 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > I'm not sure if wine can run those native DOS games, but > the "big" virtualisation software (VirtualBox, VMWare) > should be able to emulate a PC, t You don't need to go that far, dosbox will run most dos games. ___

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, Victor Sudakov wrote: Colleagues, Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? games/ioquake3 games/ioquake3-devel games/openarena ___ freebsd-questions@free

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:46:40 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > > > I could also play Quake, Quake 2 from ports, > > > > and Jedi Knight II via wine. > > > > > > Oh, is there really nothing native? > > > > No, that game is far too old, but Quake and Quake 2 have ports > > (to n

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Victor Sudakov
Polytropon wrote: [dd] > > > > Which port is it? "make search key=lsdldoom" finds nothing. > > Oh, it's "doomlegacy". Thanks, will look at it. > > > > > > I could also play Quake, Quake 2 from ports, > > > and Jedi Knight II via wine. > > > > Oh, is there really nothing native? > > No,

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Victor Sudakov
Yuri Pankov wrote: > > > > Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection > > which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have > > tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. > > > > games/uhexen: http://pastebin.com/ZaJ74eaa > > > > games/doom:

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Michael Powell
Mark Felder wrote: > Those in on the core teams here are very well aware. Did you notice we've > survived this long without ALSA? :-) However, this is very good reading > for anyone who hasn't looked at Linux lately, and it's worth mentioning > that this is snowballing quickly. I used to really li

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread jb
Jerry seibercom.net> writes: > > > However, the influence of their employer > > is so big that these products are forced upon the wider UNIX > > community and at some point it will be "assimilate or die". > ... > Personally, I embrace progress. Even if there are ten failures in a > row, that one

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Victor Sudakov
Walter Hurry wrote: > > prboom works flawlessly on my FreeBSD9 laptop. Wow! This one really works and looks like the good old Doom, music and sound and all. Thank you Walter! -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___ f

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:05:17 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > > > > > Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection > > > which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have > > > tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. >

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Yuri Pankov
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:24:32 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: Colleagues, Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. games/uhexen: http://pastebin.c

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Victor Sudakov
Polytropon wrote: > > > > Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection > > which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have > > tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. > > > > games/uhexen: http://pastebin.com/ZaJ74eaa > > MIDI load fai

Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John Levine
I have a fully patche amd64 freebsd 8.3 server with apache 2.2 and PHP 5.4.5. In the past day, php scripts have started failing with a variety of random errors, they hang, errors claiming that builtins like require_once() are not found, and other stuff. I don't see any pattern. I also can't fig

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:24:32 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Colleagues, > > Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which > work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have tried > work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. > > games/uhexen: http

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:24:32 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Colleagues, > > Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection > which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have > tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. > > games/uhexen: http:

doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Victor Sudakov
Colleagues, Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. games/uhexen: http://pastebin.com/ZaJ74eaa games/doom: http://pastebin.com/XdrCwzvn games

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:09:12 + (UTC) jb articulated: > here is an interesting comment (basically echoing other people's > view) on Linux developments: > http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120820 > Reader Comments > "1 o Arch and systemd (by Microlinux on 201

Re: freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Denis
> If you're building your own customised kernel, why don't you just build the > entire system from source? I've not used freebsd-update yet and probably > won't. Is it just a matter of time, i.e. waiting for the compilation to > finish? Actually I built this system from source. And now use free

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Mark Felder
Those in on the core teams here are very well aware. Did you notice we've survived this long without ALSA? :-) However, this is very good reading for anyone who hasn't looked at Linux lately, and it's worth mentioning that this is snowballing quickly. I used to really like some Linux distro

Re: freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
== Denis wrote on Mon 20.Aug'12 at 16:41:56 +0400 == > > Then why not follow my suggestion of _letting_ freebsd-update > > update the kernel, but _use_ a different one instead which it > > won't touch? In /boot/loader.conf: > > > > kernel="mykernel" > > bootfile="/boot/mykernel/ker

Re: I Can Has Packages?

2012-08-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
== Polytropon wrote on Mon 20.Aug'12 at 14:22:45 +0200 == > On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:38:33 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > I always keep saying the ideal > > situation would be that you could customise and compile just your own > > really mission critical software and freely mix that with installin

Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread jb
Hi, here is an interesting comment (basically echoing other people's view) on Linux developments: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120820 Reader Comments "1 o Arch and systemd (by Microlinux on 2012-08-20 10:11:39 GMT from France) Much has been said on the subject of Syste

Re: Issue with kernel building

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 09:46:30 -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > > Polytropon writes: > > > > Very good point! I'd clear the /usr/src/obj directory as pointed out, > > > then build a generic kenel, install it and boot from it. Then you > > > know you've got a working kernel to fall back on. > > > >

Re: Issue with kernel building

2012-08-20 Thread Robert Huff
Polytropon writes: > > Very good point! I'd clear the /usr/src/obj directory as pointed out, > > then build a generic kenel, install it and boot from it. Then you > > know you've got a working kernel to fall back on. > > You could then make a copy of that kernel, e. g. from its initial > i

Re: Issue with kernel building

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:13:44 +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > == Michael Powell wrote on Sun 19.Aug'12 at 19:43:14 -0400 == > > > Keep in mind whenever you install a new kernel your present kernel (and its > > matching modules) get moved to kernel.old. What this means is that the > > GENERIC y

Re: Issue with kernel building

2012-08-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
== Jerry wrote on Mon 20.Aug'12 at 8:11:17 -0400 == > I inquired several years ago about the possibility of changing the > renaming format into something like: "kernel_##_YY-MM-DD.old". The "##" > would be incremented with each successive build on a given day. I > thought it would alleviate jus

Re: Issue with kernel building

2012-08-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
== Michael Powell wrote on Sun 19.Aug'12 at 19:43:14 -0400 == > Keep in mind whenever you install a new kernel your present kernel (and its > matching modules) get moved to kernel.old. What this means is that the > GENERIC you have with a base install will be moved to kernel.old and can be > us

re: adding Mercurial CA Certificates

2012-08-20 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
How do I add an CA Certificate for Mercurial on FreeBSD please? :; uname -a FreeBSD box2 9.0-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p4 #0: Fri Aug 17 21:53:39 EEST 2012 root@box2:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 :; pkg_info -xc mercurial | sed 1q Information for mercurial-2.3: Thanks.

Re: freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Denis
> Then why not follow my suggestion of _letting_ freebsd-update > update the kernel, but _use_ a different one instead which it > won't touch? In /boot/loader.conf: > > kernel="mykernel" > bootfile="/boot/mykernel/kernel" > > Now freebsd-update can happily alter the default kernel w

Re: freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:37:40 +0400, Denis wrote: > Hi Alexandre, > > > Have you rebuilt your custom kernel after ? > > This is described in the Handbook in the section 25.2.2 > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html > > Yes, I rebuilt my

Re: I Can Has Packages?

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:38:33 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > I always keep saying the ideal > situation would be that you could customise and compile just your own > really mission critical software and freely mix that with installing > pre-compiled packages of anything else from the public reposito

Re: Issue with kernel building

2012-08-20 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:43:14 -0400 Michael Powell articulated: {snip} > Keep in mind whenever you install a new kernel your present kernel > (and its matching modules) get moved to kernel.old. What this means > is that the GENERIC you have with a base install will be moved to > kernel.old and can

Re: freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Denis
Hi Alexandre, > Have you rebuilt your custom kernel after ? > This is described in the Handbook in the section 25.2.2 > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html Yes, I rebuilt my custom kernel after. But this doesn't help - every time I run "

Re: freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Alexandre
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Denis wrote: > Hi, > > I have FreeBSD 9.0 (p4) with custom kernel. > > "uname -i" says it: > HOMEWIFI90 > > However, when I run "freebsd-update fetch" command it would like to > update my kernel as well: > > freebsd-update fetch > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org m

freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Denis
Hi, I have FreeBSD 9.0 (p4) with custom kernel. "uname -i" says it: HOMEWIFI90 However, when I run "freebsd-update fetch" command it would like to update my kernel as well: freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 9.0-RELEAS