long day, {04jun10}

2010-06-04 Thread Gary Kline
guys, esp'ly tex wizards, is there a tex version of georgia? [[i know, i know, somebody created this typefae for microwit.copr, everybody favorite company. company, corp, or human being.]] notwithstanding, i like it for printed material. it is small, even a very smaall pt-sized like 10pt, and

Re: hal-0.5.14_7 to _8 upgrade problem

2010-06-04 Thread n dhert
> USB_GET_REPORT_ID should be getting picked up from > /usr/include/dev/usb/usb_ioctl.h these days. > Have you still got libusb (or some of its includes) installed on a > system recent enough to have it in the base system? On my system, I do have : ]$ ls -la /usr/include/dev/usb/usb_ioctl.h -r--r-

Booting Xserve on 8.0

2010-06-04 Thread Chris
I have two new Xserves (last years units, 2.8 quad cores). After fighting with OSX for two months, I decided to see if I could install FreeBSD since that is what we have always run on our 10 servers since the 90s (and those two months would have been over in two days had we had FreeBSD from the st

Re: sysbench / fileio - Linux vs. FreeBSD

2010-06-04 Thread Bruce Cran
On Saturday 05 June 2010 00:58:35 Adam PAPAI wrote: > Why FreeBSD is supreme with 1 and 2 thread. And why is it 2 and 3 times > slower with 4-8-16-32 threads compared to Debian? The first two tests (1 > thread and 2 thread) showed me that FreeBSD is supreme in I/O, but later > tests showed me, tha

Re: sysbench / fileio - Linux vs. FreeBSD

2010-06-04 Thread Igor Mozolevsky
On 5 June 2010 00:58, Adam PAPAI wrote: > How can I tune my disk to make it faster? Is it possible? What is the > reason of the really slow I/O with more than 4 threads? What do you > recommend me to do? Why is it damn slow with 8K blocksize? Does linux still have async disk writes by default?

unable to install netatalk

2010-06-04 Thread Thiago Esteves
Hello all, I am getting errors while trying to install netatalk from ports collection. I am running release 6.3 p15 (I know it has already passed its end-of-life date, I will update it as soon as possible). My ports tree is updated. Any help is welcome. Here is the output: *libtool: link: (cd

Re: bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 04:03:42PM -0400, Jerry B. Altzman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 14:59, Chris Rees wrote: > > > Why would you want to do that? > > > To get rid of csh? > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ As pointed out already (at least twice), that is about csh *prog

sysbench / fileio - Linux vs. FreeBSD

2010-06-04 Thread Adam PAPAI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi List, A week ago I started to benchmark Linux vs. FreeBSD on a Dell Poweredge 1850. CPU: 2 x 3.4Ghz Xeon (Dual Core) Memory: 8GB (4x2) Disk: 1 x SEAGATE ST373454LC D404 (SCSI) FreeBSD kazoku 8.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue May 25 20

Re: Apache 2.2, mod_auth_kerb

2010-06-04 Thread Benjamin Lee
On 06/03/2010 02:16 AM, John wrote: > On 2010-06-03 07:45, Benjamin Lee wrote: >> On 05/20/2010 06:02 AM, John wrote: >> >>> Hi list. >>> >>> I'm having problems getting mod_auth_kerb to play nice on one of my >>> servers. >>> I have the exact same setup on other machines and it works perfectly,

Re: bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread b. f.
>I dont want to start flame war about linux vs bsd but ... :) >Before I start to explain what I want to do, I want you know >I consider freebsd fr away better than linux in a lot of ways. >(it is also a reason I want to build something upon bsd instead of >linux, there are so many advantages ..

Re: Alternate method for fetching source

2010-06-04 Thread Fbsd1
Ross Penner wrote: I'm trying to update my system and when I run cvsup, the connection repeatedly has problems (TreeList failed: Network write failure: Connection closed). I'm wondering if anybody can suggest any other method to grab the current source files? Thanks for any ideas It has been m

Re: bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > What I still miss is a way how to "bend" freebsd to my needs. In > linux, it is easy > as hell, remove this, change that, and it still runs. I am afraid that > if I cut off some > parts of system, I will not benefit from it anymore. For e

Re: bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread Stefan Miklosovic
Hi all, First of all, thank you for your quick answers, I really appreciate it. I dont want to start flame war about linux vs bsd but ... :) Before I start to explain what I want to do, I want you know I consider freebsd fr away better than linux in a lot of ways. (it is also a reason I want

Re: bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:03:42 -0400, "Jerry B. Altzman" wrote: > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 14:59, Chris Rees wrote: > > > Why would you want to do that? > > > > > To get rid of csh? > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ The article you mentioned discusses the topic "Why shouldn't I

Re: bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread Eric Masson
"Jerry B. Altzman" writes: Hi, > To get rid of csh? > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ This link is about csh *programming*, as standard scripts in FreeBSD use sh, this is pointless. Regards -- Ol: ..un plan perdu au fond d'une armoire dont seul Steve Jobs a la clé. BL:

Re: Some GMirror questions.

2010-06-04 Thread Adam Vande More
I think you are making this harder than is needs to be. When in doubt defer to the Handbook and the man pages. This also a good page http://onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html Lastly, I know at one point the 'load' algorithm had some performance > problems and people were saying

Re: bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread Jerry B. Altzman
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 14:59, Chris Rees wrote: > Why would you want to do that? > > To get rid of csh? http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzmanjba...@gmail.com www.jbaltz.com foo mane padme hum twitter: @lorvax _

Re: Alternate method for fetching source

2010-06-04 Thread doug
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Lars Eighner wrote: On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Ross Penner wrote: I'm trying to update my system and when I run cvsup, the connection repeatedly has problems (TreeList failed: Network write failure: Connection closed). I'm wondering if anybody can suggest any other method to grab

Re: bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread Michael Powell
Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > Hi list, > > title says it, i would like completely remove csh and install bash > instead. As far I know, csh is build in system, could I remove it > manually and install bash (of course, in reverse order :D) > > Are there such dependencies on csh? I know that real sys

Re: bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread Uwe Laverenz
Am 04.06.2010 20:56, schrieb Stefan Miklosovic: title says it, i would like completely remove csh and install bash instead. As far I know, csh is build in system, could I remove it manually and install bash (of course, in reverse order :D) What do you want to achieve with this? Installing shel

Re: Alternate method for fetching source

2010-06-04 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Ross Penner wrote: > I'm trying to update my system and when I run cvsup, the connection > repeatedly has problems (TreeList failed: Network write failure: > Connection closed). I'm wondering if anybody can suggest any other > method to grab the current source files

Re: bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:56:02 +0200, Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > Hi list, > > title says it, i would like completely remove csh and install bash > instead. As far I know, csh is build in system, could I remove it > manually and install bash (of course, in reverse order :D) > > Are there such depen

Re: bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 08:56:02PM +0200, Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > Hi list, > > title says it, i would like completely remove csh and install bash > instead. As far I know, csh is build in system, could I remove it > manually and install bash (of course, in reverse order :D) If you are made ab

Re: Alternate method for fetching source

2010-06-04 Thread Lars Eighner
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Ross Penner wrote: I'm trying to update my system and when I run cvsup, the connection repeatedly has problems (TreeList failed: Network write failure: Connection closed). I'm wondering if anybody can suggest any other method to grab the current source files? You are talkin

Re: bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread Chris Rees
Why would you want to do that? On 4 Jun 2010 19:57, "Stefan Miklosovic" wrote: Hi list, title says it, i would like completely remove csh and install bash instead. As far I know, csh is build in system, could I remove it manually and install bash (of course, in reverse order :D) Are there such

bash instead of csh (completely)

2010-06-04 Thread Stefan Miklosovic
Hi list, title says it, i would like completely remove csh and install bash instead. As far I know, csh is build in system, could I remove it manually and install bash (of course, in reverse order :D) Are there such dependencies on csh? I know that real system scripting is done via /bin/sh co abs

Re: Alternate method for fetching source

2010-06-04 Thread Vincent Hoffman
On 04/06/2010 19:20, Ross Penner wrote: > I'm trying to update my system and when I run cvsup, the connection > repeatedly has problems (TreeList failed: Network write failure: > Connection closed). I'm wondering if anybody can suggest any other > method to grab the current source files? > svn w

Re: hal-0.5.14_7 to _8 upgrade problem

2010-06-04 Thread Lowell Gilbert
n dhert writes: > I have a problem with upgrading hal-0.5.14_7 to hal-0.5.14_8 > > how to solve this? > --- > cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../.. > -DPACKAGE_SYSCONF_DIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -D > PACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" > -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" - > DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DI

Alternate method for fetching source

2010-06-04 Thread Ross Penner
I'm trying to update my system and when I run cvsup, the connection repeatedly has problems (TreeList failed: Network write failure: Connection closed). I'm wondering if anybody can suggest any other method to grab the current source files? Thanks for any ideas

Re: portsnap refuse

2010-06-04 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Fbsd1 writes: > The postsnap says adding refuse statements to select the parts of the > port tree you have use for will shorten the download process and > conserve disk space on your host. That only the port categories not > REFUSED will be selected and compressed for download. You are paraphras

Re: .sh & getopts

2010-06-04 Thread Robert Bonomi
m > From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Jun 3 23:36:28 2010 > Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 12:35:56 +0800 > From: Aiza > To: "questi...@freebsd.org" > Cc: > Subject: .sh & getopts > > Have this code > > shift; while getopts :ugr: arg; do case ${arg} in > u) action="freebsd-update";; >

[sterl...@camdensoftware.com: Re: ncurses]

2010-06-04 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 04 2010 19:24, Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 10:12:12AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > Thanks for all the info, but i get the same results in mutt-devel as I do > > in mutt. WITH_MUTT_SLANG didn't seem to take either. > > > > Is there a way to specify that mutt should u

Some GMirror questions.

2010-06-04 Thread Peter Clark
Hello All, There are a number of gmirror resources available online but there are a few discrepancies. I thought someone here might be able to shed some light on them. Also, this is on FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE. Does creating the mirror need to be done from a Livefs CD (in Fixit mode) or can it be

Re: x11/xfce ssh-agent once per logon for minimal (no gnome/kde) installation

2010-06-04 Thread Steve Franks
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Steve Franks wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Matthew Seaman > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 04/06/2010 24:39:46, Steve Franks wrote: >>> I'm totally lost.  What I desire is to put in my passphrase for my >>> public ke

Re: x11/xfce ssh-agent once per logon for minimal (no gnome/kde) installation

2010-06-04 Thread Steve Franks
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/06/2010 24:39:46, Steve Franks wrote: >> I'm totally lost.  What I desire is to put in my passphrase for my >> public key(s) when I logon to my box.  Since I usually install from >> p

Re: ncurses

2010-06-04 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 08:02:34AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > It seems that building mutt with the devel/ncurses port installed creates > the problem I was experiencing: most colors do not show up in mutt, and > the line-drawing characters are borked. Deinstalling devel/ncurses and > rebuildin

Re: ncurses

2010-06-04 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 04 2010 17:30, sghctoma wrote: > not exactly a solution, rather a workaround, but you can build mutt > with s-lang (WITH_MUTT_SLANG=YES) instead of ncurses.. it works for > me.. Thanks for the tip. I'm not sure if I'll go that route, but I'm copying your response to the list for posterity'

ncurses

2010-06-04 Thread Chip Camden
Thanks to some help from Joel Dahl on the mutt-users list, I was able to restore correct color support in my mutt installation. But it raises a question about ncurses. It seems that building mutt with the devel/ncurses port installed creates the problem I was experiencing: most colors do not show

hal-0.5.14_7 to _8 upgrade problem

2010-06-04 Thread n dhert
I have a problem with upgrading hal-0.5.14_7 to hal-0.5.14_8 how to solve this? --- cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../.. -DPACKAGE_SYSCONF_DIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -D PACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" - DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\""/usr/local/share/locale"\" -DP

Re: /var/empty has schg flag turned on. Why?

2010-06-04 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
On 06/04/2010 02:59 AM, Fbsd1 wrote: > Why does the base RELEASE have schg flag turned for the /var/empty > directory? > > Is that directory really used for anything? > > Is this a release build problem? Certain daemons will chroot(2) to that directory to perform sensitive privilege-separation o

Re: Sluggish Apache Server

2010-06-04 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
On 06/03/2010 03:23 PM, Barry Steyn wrote: > Hi guys, > > We're having a serious problem here with our live server, it's very > sluggish all of a sudden. The problem is that Apache is *really* slow > responding to https requests but still fairly quick on http. Running out of entropy, perhaps? Pub

/var/empty has schg flag turned on. Why?

2010-06-04 Thread Fbsd1
Why does the base RELEASE have schg flag turned for the /var/empty directory? Is that directory really used for anything? Is this a release build problem? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd

portsnap refuse

2010-06-04 Thread Fbsd1
The postsnap says adding refuse statements to select the parts of the port tree you have use for will shorten the download process and conserve disk space on your host. That only the port categories not REFUSED will be selected and compressed for download. Well for a test I ran portsnap with o

Re: .sh & getopts

2010-06-04 Thread Aiza
Steve Bertrand wrote: On 2010.06.04 00:35, Aiza wrote: Have this code shift; while getopts :ugr: arg; do case ${arg} in u) action="freebsd-update";; g) action="freebsd-upgrade";; r) action="freebsd-rollback";; ?) exerr ${cmd_usage};; esac; done; shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 )) Comm

Re: .sh & getopts

2010-06-04 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.06.04 00:35, Aiza wrote: > Have this code > > shift; while getopts :ugr: arg; do case ${arg} in >u) action="freebsd-update";; >g) action="freebsd-upgrade";; >r) action="freebsd-rollback";; >?) exerr ${cmd_usage};; > esac; done; shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 )) > > > Command bein