Re: Again, flavors or options?

2017-12-21 Thread Mathieu Arnold
Le 21/12/2017 à 03:16, Yuri a écrit : > Do you think flavors are a good fit for this task? Flavors is for when a port needs to be built differently multiple times. From what you are saying, this can be built once and splitted up later, this is subpackages. For now, you should use options, with wha

Re: Vote: making wayland=on default

2017-12-21 Thread Johannes Lundberg
Thanks for the explanation, Kevin. I should have included more background information about what Wayland is and what turning it on by default means in more detail. Again to clarify, enabling Wayland by default does not change anything, it simply adds more options. Similar to adding a X11 window ma

Re: Again, flavors or options?

2017-12-21 Thread Yuri
On 12/21/17 00:17, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Flavors is for when a port needs to be built differently multiple times. From what you are saying, this can be built once and splitted up later, this is subpackages. For now, you should use options, with what most people need as the default options. You c

Re: Again, flavors or options?

2017-12-21 Thread Mathieu Arnold
Le 21/12/2017 à 09:55, Yuri a écrit : > On 12/21/17 00:17, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >> Flavors is for when a port needs to be built differently multiple times. >>  From what you are saying, this can be built once and splitted up later, >> this is subpackages. For now, you should use options, with what

Re: Procmail got updated!

2017-12-21 Thread Eugene Grosbein
On 21.12.2017 07:35, Kevin Oberman wrote: >>> What happened with old good "Tools, not policy" thing? >> >> It's simpler than that, no policy involved. >> >> The tool had a hollow head, and broke after several years of banging it, >> and the former tool maker told the public it's out of warranty (n

Re: Procmail got updated!

2017-12-21 Thread Eugene Grosbein
On 21.12.2017 11:35, Ted Hatfield wrote: > I think if you choose to drop support for procmail you should do as > Kevin suggests and give a warning and a firm date when support will stop. There is nothing to stop. We have plenty software working but maintained by nobody and it is not a big deal.

Re: Procmail got updated!

2017-12-21 Thread Eugene Grosbein
On 21.12.2017 14:24, Matthias Andree wrote: What happened with old good "Tools, not policy" thing? >>> >>> It's simpler than that, no policy involved. >>> >>> The tool had a hollow head, and broke after several years of banging it, >>> and the former tool maker told the public it's out of war

Re: Vote: making wayland=on default

2017-12-21 Thread Guido Falsi
On 12/20/2017 21:47, Niclas Zeising wrote: > On 12/20/17 10:20, Johannes Lundberg wrote: >> Hi >> >> I want to suggest that we enable wayland by default. In current state >> having some parts of wayland in ports is basically useless the >> end-users themselves re-build gtk30 and mesa-libs with wayl

Re: Vote: making wayland=on default

2017-12-21 Thread Niclas Zeising
On 12/20/17 23:21, roberth...@rcn.com wrote: To the list: I salute X for doing its job, but I have no brand loyalty. If something comes along that is some combination of a) more robust, b) faster, and c) as easy to install/manage I'll switch in a heartbeat. (Smaller footprint wo

FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date

2017-12-21 Thread portscout
Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate, submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated, you

Re: Vote: making wayland=on default

2017-12-21 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 12/20/17 23:21, roberth...@rcn.com wrote: First off, I'm not trying to bring up any flame... my questions are real and I'd really welcome good answers. Yuri writes: It appears that this is the case of fixing of something (xorg) that wasn't/isn't broken in the first place. And if it

Re: Canberra

2017-12-21 Thread blubee blubeeme
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Sid wrote: > > Blubee blubeeme > > I'll work on it but let me get the port in the tree first, then I can > refine it. > > Just as i've done with my previous ports. > > > Sid > > a simple program that plays simple sounds like "Ding!" > > The problem with libcanberr

Re: FLAVOR for Qt4 and Qt5 (was Re: Flavor or not for this port?)

2017-12-21 Thread Rainer Hurling
Hi Loïc, Am 19.12.2017 um 20:48 schrieb L.Bartoletti: Hi, Here's my WIP https://gitlab.com/lbartoletti/freebsd_ports/tree/master/qwt6 Looks interesting to me. Do we agree, that the package should be named qwt6-qt[45], and not qwt-qt[45]? And shouldn't PORTNAME better be named qwt6 instea

Re: FLAVOR for Qt4 and Qt5 (was Re: Flavor or not for this port?)

2017-12-21 Thread Mathieu Arnold
Le 19/12/2017 à 20:48, L.Bartoletti a écrit : > Hi, > > Here's my WIP > > https://gitlab.com/lbartoletti/freebsd_ports/tree/master/qwt6 As long as you are defining a default FLAVOR value, do it right: FLAVOR?= ${FLAVORS:[1]} There are a few stuffs that could be simplified, this works for both fl

Re: OSS Audio

2017-12-21 Thread Sid
blubee blubeeme; Mon Dec 11 17:03:10 UTC 2017 > I'm taking a look at soundcard.h in /usr/include/sys/soundcard.h in FreeBSD > vs the soundcard.h in the offical OSS 4.01 > https://sourceforge.net/p/opensound/git/ci/master/tree/include/soundcard.h > It seems like there's been a lot of changes betwee

Re: Setting system user home directory

2017-12-21 Thread Dmytro Bilokha
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 08:32:37PM +0100, Stefan Esser wrote: Am 20.12.17 um 15:12 schrieb Adam Vande More: On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Dmytro Bilokha wrote: Guys, thanks for your help. I've managed to adjust user's homedir using pkg-install script. Now I'll try to move everything writab

Re: Vote: making wayland=on default

2017-12-21 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 21/12/2017 03:19, Michael Gmelin wrote: On 21. Dec 2017, at 02:14, Chris H wrote: On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 00:29:40 +0100 "Michael Gmelin" said On 20. Dec 2017, at 18:50, Chris H wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 17:13:43 + said On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 16:23:59 + "Johannes Lundberg" said

Re: Procmail got updated!

2017-12-21 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 21.12.2017 um 10:16 schrieb Eugene Grosbein: > So, you demand we stop shipping any unmaintained software with our Ports & > Packages? > Absence of CVEs means nothing and almost any non-trivial software has bugs > (axiom). Eugene, these are attempts to distract from the argument, or to mount

Re: Canberra

2017-12-21 Thread Sid
> Blubee blubeeme > I'll look at the libcanberra OSS backend and see if I get get the changes > upstream then the libcanberra maintainer can update the port. >> Sid >> Sooner or later, a drop in replacement for libcanberra needs to be made for >> all BSD's. It should use ogg files from audio/fre

Re: Procmail got updated!

2017-12-21 Thread Eugene Grosbein
22.12.2017 9:50, Matthias Andree пишет: > Am 21.12.2017 um 10:16 schrieb Eugene Grosbein: > >> So, you demand we stop shipping any unmaintained software with our Ports & >> Packages? >> Absence of CVEs means nothing and almost any non-trivial software has bugs >> (axiom). > > Eugene, these are