Re: FreeBSD telldusd port fix for devd script

2017-10-04 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On 10/04/17 07:59, Johan Ström wrote: Hi, thanks, verified and seems to work fine, at least on unplug/re-plug. I added a "logger "logger ATTACH event on $cdev;" to the action too. On unplug-plug scenario this was logged and all worked fine [1]. On a reboot it did not log it [2], but it actually

FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date

2017-10-04 Thread portscout
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Re: FreeBSD telldusd port fix for devd script

2017-10-04 Thread Johan Ström
Ah, okay. Well, it works now and didn't work with the old devd rule, I'm happy with that :) Shall I create a patch and submit to bugzilla, or are you fixing this as part of bigger cleanup? On October 4, 2017 10:03:21 AM GMT+02:00, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: >On 10/04/17 07:59, Johan Ström wr

Re: FreeBSD telldusd port fix for devd script

2017-10-04 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On 10/04/17 16:30, Johan Ström wrote: Ah, okay. Well, it works now and didn't work with the old devd rule, I'm happy with that :) Shall I create a patch and submit to bugzilla, or are you fixing this as part of bigger cleanup? Please submit it straight to ports. No more cleanup from my side

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portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Michael W. Lucas
Hi, I'm doing tech edits on the new edition of "Absolute FreeBSD," and stumbled into what's apparently a delicate topic. Some of my reviewers are happy I included portmaster in the book. Some reviewers beg me not to include it. Unfortunately, people will be reading af3e and considering it defin

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread George Mitchell
On 10/04/17 12:16, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > Hi, > > I'm doing tech edits on the new edition of "Absolute FreeBSD," and > stumbled into what's apparently a delicate topic. > > Some of my reviewers are happy I included portmaster in the book. > > Some reviewers beg me not to include it. [...] It

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Steve Kargl
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 12:16:49PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > > Poudriere really needs its own small book. Yes, you can do simple > poudriere installs, but once you start covering it properly the docs > quickly expand. My notes alone are longer than my af3e chapter > limits. (I'll probably p

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Steve Kargl < s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 12:16:49PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > > > > Poudriere really needs its own small book. Yes, you can do simple > > poudriere installs, but once you start covering it properly the

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Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Steve Kargl
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 10:21:26AM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Steve Kargl < > s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 12:16:49PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > > > > > > Poudriere really needs its own small book. Yes, you can do

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread George Mitchell
On 10/04/17 14:14, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 10:21:26AM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Steve Kargl < >> s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 12:16:49PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: Poudriere really ne

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Steve Kargl
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:57:08PM -0400, George Mitchell wrote: > On 10/04/17 14:14, Steve Kargl wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 10:21:26AM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Steve Kargl < > >> s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, Oct 04, 20

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 04/10/2017 16:16, Michael W. Lucas wrote: Hi, I'm doing tech edits on the new edition of "Absolute FreeBSD," and stumbled into what's apparently a delicate topic. Some of my reviewers are happy I included portmaster in the book. Some reviewers beg me not to include it. Unfortunately, peop

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 04/10/2017 19:40, Steve Kargl wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:57:08PM -0400, George Mitchell wrote: On 10/04/17 14:14, Steve Kargl wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 10:21:26AM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Steve Kargl < s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Ernie Luzar
Michael W. Lucas wrote: Hi, I'm doing tech edits on the new edition of "Absolute FreeBSD," and stumbled into what's apparently a delicate topic. Some of my reviewers are happy I included portmaster in the book. Some reviewers beg me not to include it. Unfortunately, people will be reading af3

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:13:16PM +, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > I was trying > to compile with the system that was being updated at the > same time - this can't possibly work (or can it?). It works somewhere between "quite often" to "nearly all the time". It can vary depending on the complexity

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 04/10/2017 20:43, Mark Linimon wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:13:16PM +, Grzegorz Junka wrote: I was trying to compile with the system that was being updated at the same time - this can't possibly work (or can it?). It works somewhere between "quite often" to "nearly all the time".

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 04:39:25PM -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > even the native ports system usage on personal machines > wwill fade away. I have seen this claim many times by users but AFAIR that was never a goal. The feeling was that _most_ users would migrate to using packages, once using packa

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:56:00PM +, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > Maybe I am just too ambitious or maybe poudriere is more > idiot-proof? My possibly incorrect understanding is that poudriere trades off doing a lot more work in an attempt to produce more rigorously correct results. mcl __

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > > On 04/10/2017 20:43, Mark Linimon wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:13:16PM +, Grzegorz Junka wrote: >> >>> I was trying >>> to compile with the system that was being updated at the >>> same time - this can't possibly work (or can

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Steve Kargl
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:30:49PM +, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > > On 04/10/2017 19:40, Steve Kargl wrote: > > Ahem, yeah, so I'm not allowed to request a short description > > on how to use poudiere in a resource constrained environment? > > > > The environment isn't constrained by poudriere bu

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 04/10/2017 21:22, Steve Kargl wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:30:49PM +, Grzegorz Junka wrote: On 04/10/2017 19:40, Steve Kargl wrote: Ahem, yeah, so I'm not allowed to request a short description on how to use poudiere in a resource constrained environment? The environment isn't co

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 04/10/2017 21:00, Mark Linimon wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:56:00PM +, Grzegorz Junka wrote: Maybe I am just too ambitious or maybe poudriere is more idiot-proof? My possibly incorrect understanding is that poudriere trades off doing a lot more work in an attempt to produce more ri

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Mark Linimon
Please understand that I'm not trying to be obstinate, I'm trying to understand. Background: years ago I managed the cluster of i386 blades that we used in package building. 933MHz and 512MB IIRC. So I am familiar with constraint problems. On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:22:25PM -0700, Steve Kargl wr

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 09:56:53PM +, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > portmaster/portupgrade trade off doing less work with > less resources in an attempt to produce less rigorously > correct result That was what I thought I said :-) or at least was trying to say. mcl ___

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Steve Kargl
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 05:29:14PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > Please understand that I'm not trying to be obstinate, > I'm trying to understand. Me too. > Background: years ago I managed the cluster of i386 blades > that we used in package building. 933MHz and 512MB IIRC. > So I am familiar wi

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Don Lewis
On 4 Oct, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 05:29:14PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: >> Please understand that I'm not trying to be obstinate, >> I'm trying to understand. > > Me too. > >> Background: years ago I managed the cluster of i386 blades >> that we used in package building. 93

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread Adam Weinberger
> On 4 Oct, 2017, at 10:16, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm doing tech edits on the new edition of "Absolute FreeBSD," and > stumbled into what's apparently a delicate topic. > > Some of my reviewers are happy I included portmaster in the book. > > Some reviewers beg me not to include

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-04 Thread blubee blubeeme
Interesting thread, I've learned more about FreeBSD build here than almost anywhere else. Thanks OP for the email. On Thu, Oct 5, 2017, 09:14 Adam Weinberger wrote: > > On 4 Oct, 2017, at 10:16, Michael W. Lucas > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm doing tech edits on the new edition of "Absolute