Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread demelier . david
On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 11:57 -0700, Dave Hayes wrote: > Would you agree that release branches would be unnecessary if > somehow > you could select the version of node that the ports tree builds via > some > (as yet unspecified) mechanism? I've also think about that but I'm not sure if it's easier

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread demelier . david
On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 00:31 +, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > A user would probably start with precompiled packages. Only power > users > who know what they are doing would try to compile the packages > themselves, and at that point I would expect them to know a thing or > two > about verifying tha

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Vlad K.
On 2017-06-23 10:26, demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: Release branches won't have many maintenance except individual bug fixes when security advisories are found. No backport, no updates. Nothing prevents the maintainers from doing exactly that right now. But you see, there are two kinds of po

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread demelier . david
On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 16:11 -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote: > > My problem is that my industry experience tells me that reducing > > the frequency of port releases is practically *guaranteed* to be > > a Really Good Thing for everyo

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Guido Falsi
On 06/23/17 10:26, demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 11:57 -0700, Dave Hayes wrote: Would you agree that release branches would be unnecessary if somehow you could select the version of node that the ports tree builds via some (as yet unspecified) mechanism? I've also think

[SAMBA] and file content caching

2017-06-23 Thread abi
Hello, I need to organize file exchange between between daemon and windows program. Daemon is sitting in jail, windows - in bhyve, both on the same host. Daemon is writing lines into file, windows program reads them. The obvious choose was to install samba46 into jail and provide share to wi

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 06/23/17 09:47, demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 16:11 -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote: >>> My problem is that my industry experience tells me that reducing >>> the frequency of port releases is practically

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread demelier . david
On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 10:38 +0200, Vlad K. wrote: > But again, that's all doable without having to introduce new > infrastructure. The ports tree as is can be maintained like this and > quarterly repos would NOT be required. All it's needed is for > maintainers to keep a stable version and a lat

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Vlad K.
On 2017-06-23 11:35, demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: Release branches do not need backports. I think we have different concepts of "backport" here. I'm not talking about backports as defined by debian backports repository. I'm talking about taking a piece of code from NEWER version and turni

PR commit request

2017-06-23 Thread Yasuhiro KIMURA
Dear committers, Would someone please commit following 2 PRs? Bug 213187 - graphics/xface.el: simplify makefile and plist https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213187 Bug 213328 - japanese/mecab-ipadic: Add LICENSE and etc. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213328 Be

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread RW via freebsd-ports
On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:03:35 -0400 Baho Utot wrote: > The pre-compiled packages is what drove me to build the entire system > as it gave me a broken system that would not work and upon getting it > to function would/**/spontaneous reboot. My hand built packages > stopped that. > > I have built

Re: NEW APR/APR-Utils

2017-06-23 Thread The Doctor
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 02:29:49PM +1000, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: > Rightly or wrongly I haven't tested with apr-1.6. I pretty much adhere > to the versions within /usr/ports. Only when there's a CVE do I break > ranks - and usually after I've filed a PR for the (security) issue to be > addressed

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread scratch65535
On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 00:36:19 +0200, Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz> wrote: >scratch65...@att.net wrote on 2017/06/23 00:15: >> [Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:11:26 -0500, Mark Linimon >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote: My problem is t

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Baho Utot
On 06/23/17 07:48, RW via freebsd-ports wrote: On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:03:35 -0400 Baho Utot wrote: The pre-compiled packages is what drove me to build the entire system as it gave me a broken system that would not work and upon getting it to function would/**/spontaneous reboot. My hand bui

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Matt Smith
On Jun 23 08:02, scratch65...@att.net wrote: On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 00:36:19 +0200, Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz> wrote: scratch65...@att.net wrote on 2017/06/23 00:15: [Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:11:26 -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scratch65..

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Baho Utot
On 06/23/17 04:53, Guido Falsi wrote: On 06/23/17 10:26, demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 11:57 -0700, Dave Hayes wrote: Would you agree that release branches would be unnecessary if somehow you could select the version of node that the ports tree builds via some (as yet

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 01:09:26AM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > I'll go back to what I was doing before This was an unkind comment and I should not have made it. My apologies to all. mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.

Re: www/libxul

2017-06-23 Thread George Mitchell
On 06/23/17 00:49, Jan Beich wrote: > George Mitchell writes: > >> Consequently, the configure script dies at line 26248, complaining >> that "Option, jemalloc, does not take an argument (4)". > > Sorry for the bustage. It should be fixed now. > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/4441

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Guido Falsi
On 06/23/17 15:11, Baho Utot wrote: > > > On 06/23/17 04:53, Guido Falsi wrote: >> On 06/23/17 10:26, demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 11:57 -0700, Dave Hayes wrote: Would you agree that release branches would be unnecessary if somehow you could select the

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Guido Falsi
On 06/23/17 10:53, Guido Falsi wrote: > On 06/23/17 10:26, demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 11:57 -0700, Dave Hayes wrote: >>> Would you agree that release branches would be unnecessary if >>> somehow >>> you could select the version of node that the ports tree builds via >>

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Baho Utot
On 06/23/17 10:30, Guido Falsi wrote: On 06/23/17 15:11, Baho Utot wrote: On 06/23/17 04:53, Guido Falsi wrote: On 06/23/17 10:26, demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 11:57 -0700, Dave Hayes wrote: Would you agree that release branches would be unnecessary if somehow you

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 23/06/2017 03:58, Julian Elischer wrote: On 23/6/17 6:36 am, Miroslav Lachman wrote: scratch65...@att.net wrote on 2017/06/23 00:15: [Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:11:26 -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote: My problem is that

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Julian Elischer
On 23/6/17 4:38 pm, Vlad K. wrote: On 2017-06-23 10:26, demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: Release branches won't have many maintenance except individual bug fixes when security advisories are found. No backport, no updates. Nothing prevents the maintainers from doing exactly that right now. Bu

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Julian Elischer
On 23/6/17 11:47 pm, Grzegorz Junka wrote: On 23/06/2017 03:58, Julian Elischer wrote: On 23/6/17 6:36 am, Miroslav Lachman wrote: scratch65...@att.net wrote on 2017/06/23 00:15: [Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:11:26 -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scra

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 23/06/2017 12:32, Baho Utot wrote: On 06/23/17 07:48, RW via freebsd-ports wrote: On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:03:35 -0400 Baho Utot wrote: The pre-compiled packages is what drove me to build the entire system as it gave me a broken system that would not work and upon getting it to function w

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Grzegorz Junka
Can't you just create the branch yourself? It's open source. You just clone it and can keep it in Github for free. Then you can apply security patches to just the applications you need yourself. If it's too difficult you can hire people to apply just specific patches. With Github pull request

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Julian Elischer wrote: (*) From my experience, the best way to cope with openssl is to have everything link with the system openssl and issue security upgrades to the base OS that upgrades that when there is a need. (this may change, but it's been my experience so far). Agree on previous pa

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Vlad K.
On 2017-06-23 23:09, Grzegorz Junka wrote: Fine. Considering that maintainers already apply patches to the latest quarterly branch. If there were to be OS version branches, it would mean that maintainers apart from what they are doing now would additionally need to apply selected patches to thos

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Matt Smith wrote: I use FreeBSD *precisely* because it mostly keeps up with the latest stable versions of things. I have postfix 3.2, pgsql 9.6, nginx 1.13, libressl 2.5 etc. It's usually impossible to do this with linux unless you install things directly from source. And me I came to FreeB

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Martin Waschbüsch
> Am 23.06.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Michelle Sullivan : > > Matt Smith wrote: >> >> I use FreeBSD *precisely* because it mostly keeps up with the latest stable >> versions of things. I have postfix 3.2, pgsql 9.6, nginx 1.13, libressl 2.5 >> etc. It's usually impossible to do this with linux unle