How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
Hi, Just a question that struck me today. Before there were the portupgrade and other tools for upgrading installed applications to their newer versions, how did things work out? Did one upgrade applications through a series of "make deinstall reinstall" commands (I wonder if these commands

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > Just a question that struck me today. Before there were the portupgrade and > other tools for upgrading installed applications to their newer versions, > how did things work out? > > Did one upgrade applications through a serie

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > Hi, > > Just a question that struck me today. Before there were the portupgrade > and other tools for upgrading installed applications to their newer > versions, how did things work out? > > Did one upgrade applications throu

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Tobias Roth
Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Just a question that struck me today. Before there were the portupgrade >> and other tools for upgrading installed applications to their newer >> versions, how did things work out? >> >> Did on

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 01:33:57AM -0700 I heard the voice of Jeremy Chadwick, and lo! it spake thus: > > I'm one of those administrators who does not want something like > portupgrade on his systems; I do not believe in having two separate > databases maintaining dependencies and what's installed

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: Along those lines, yes. I'm one of those administrators who does not want something like portupgrade on his systems; I do not believe in having two separate databases maintaining dependencies and what's installed (portupgrade vs. base system pkg_* tools). Lots of people

INDEX build failed for 5.x

2007-08-11 Thread Erwin Lansing
INDEX build failed with errors: Generating INDEX-5 - please wait..pkg_info: not found pkg_info: not found pkg_info: not found "Makefile", line 65: warning: "/usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/grep Server- || /usr/sbin/pkg_info -O x11-servers/xorg-server 2>/d

Re: INDEX build failed for 5.x

2007-08-11 Thread Edwin Groothuis
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:07:25PM +, Erwin Lansing wrote: > INDEX build failed with errors: > Generating INDEX-5 - please wait..pkg_info: not found > pkg_info: not found > pkg_info: not found > "Makefile", line 65: warning: "/usr/sbin/pkg_info -O > x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server 2>/dev/null | /

INDEX now builds successfully on 5.x

2007-08-11 Thread Erwin Lansing
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Re: Porting a Python 2.5 dependent software.

2007-08-11 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:55:23 +0530 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल) wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to port a package on FreeBSD. The package depends on Python > v.2.5 (which is not default on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE), and some python > modules. Now, the problem is that dependent python module

request add db45/db46 support to mail/exim port

2007-08-11 Thread snowcrash+freebsd
hi, i've fbsd 62Rp7 installed. i've updated my sys to use db46 (berkeley db), and set WITH_BDB_VER/USE_BDB/etc accordingly in make.conf ... current portupgrade complains: ** Port marked as IGNORE: mail/exim: is marked as broken: WITH_BDB_VER must be either 1, 4, 41, 42, 43 or 44 fix

Re: INDEX build failed for 5.x

2007-08-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 10:09:43PM +1000, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:07:25PM +, Erwin Lansing wrote: > > INDEX build failed with errors: > > Generating INDEX-5 - please wait..pkg_info: not found > > pkg_info: not found > > pkg_info: not found > > "Makefile", line 65: wa

Re: request add db45/db46 support to mail/exim port

2007-08-11 Thread Xin LI
snowcrash+freebsd wrote: hi, i've fbsd 62Rp7 installed. i've updated my sys to use db46 (berkeley db), and set WITH_BDB_VER/USE_BDB/etc accordingly in make.conf ... current portupgrade complains: ** Port marked as IGNORE: mail/exim: is marked as broken: WITH_BDB_VER must be either 1

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 11:37:22AM +0200, Tobias Roth wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Just a question that struck me today. Before there were the portupgrade > >> and other tools for upgrading installed applic

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 11:37:22AM +0200, Tobias Roth wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: Hi, Just a question that struck me today. Before there were the portupgrade and other tools for upgrading installed appl

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 09:01:27PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 11:37:22AM +0200, Tobias Roth wrote: > >>Kris Kennaway wrote: > >>>On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > Hi, > > Just a question t

Re: request add db45/db46 support to mail/exim port

2007-08-11 Thread snowcrash+freebsd
hi, > Sounds great, just one point: I'd prefer seeing that exim would make use > of bsd.database.mk. i /thought/ that use of WITH_BDB_VER/USE_BDB *is* 'making use of' bsd.database.mk, wherein, ... .if defined(WITH_BDB_VER) . if ${WITH_BDB_VER} == 4 USE_BDB=40 . elif ${WITH_BDB_VER} != 1

Re: request add db45/db46 support to mail/exim port

2007-08-11 Thread Xin LI
snowcrash+freebsd wrote: hi, Sounds great, just one point: I'd prefer seeing that exim would make use of bsd.database.mk. i /thought/ that use of WITH_BDB_VER/USE_BDB *is* 'making use of' bsd.database.mk, wherein, ... .if defined(WITH_BDB_VER) . if ${WITH_BDB_VER} == 4 USE_BDB=40 .

Re: request add db45/db46 support to mail/exim port

2007-08-11 Thread Scot Hetzel
On 8/11/07, snowcrash+freebsd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi, > > > Sounds great, just one point: I'd prefer seeing that exim would make use > > of bsd.database.mk. > > i /thought/ that use of WITH_BDB_VER/USE_BDB *is* 'making use of' > bsd.database.mk, wherein, > > ... > .if defined(WITH_BDB_VE

Re: request add db45/db46 support to mail/exim port

2007-08-11 Thread snowcrash+freebsd
> exim will automatically pick up with bsd.database.mk changes. ah. got it. thx! ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: request add db45/db46 support to mail/exim port

2007-08-11 Thread Hajimu UMEMOTO
Hi, > On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:37:18 -0500 > "Scot Hetzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: swhetzel> Here's the correct code for BDB detection: swhetzel> USE_BDB= 40+ Why do you specify USE_BDB as 40+, explicitly? Since, it is defined as 41+ in bsd.database.mk, I believe USE_BDB=yes is enough.

Re: request add db45/db46 support to mail/exim port

2007-08-11 Thread Scot Hetzel
On 8/11/07, Hajimu UMEMOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:37:18 -0500 > > "Scot Hetzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > swhetzel> Here's the correct code for BDB detection: > > swhetzel> USE_BDB= 40+ > > Why do you specify USE_BDB as 40+, explicitly? Since, it

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread David Ericson Thiel
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > Did one upgrade applications through a series of "make deinstall reinstall" > commands (I wonder if these commands take care of dependencies too) or was > there any other way? I used pkg_version -c, which has now been removed.

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
Kris Kennaway wrote: I'm curious now -- how does portupgrade (that's the tool I know/ use so I'll use that as an example) do its upgrading? I have seen that in case of an upgrade in builds the newer version, uninstalls the previous one (even though it might be required by other apps), and then

Re: request add db45/db46 support to mail/exim port

2007-08-11 Thread Hajimu UMEMOTO
Hi, > On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:03:32 -0500 > "Scot Hetzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: swhetzel> I believe when I made the change to bsd.database.mk, and then patched swhetzel> all of the BDB using ports, I had put the lowest version that the port swhetzel> supported into USE_BDB. swhetzel>

cleaning up the x windows

2007-08-11 Thread Evren Yurtesen
After a lot of frustration with 300+ seperate ports being installed when I try to install xorg. I tried to create a xorg-base port. I say I tried to because I took a lot of shortcuts and this is my first time doing a port, so dont get mad at me and I dont know if you guys will find this useful but

cleaning up the x windows

2007-08-11 Thread Evren Yurtesen
After a lot of frustration with 300+ seperate ports being installed when I try to install xorg. I tried to create a xorg-base port. I say I tried to because I took a lot of shortcuts and this is my first time doing a port, so dont get mad at me and I dont know if you guys will find this useful b

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 10:51:41AM -0700, David Ericson Thiel wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:03:33PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > > Did one upgrade applications through a series of "make deinstall reinstall" > > commands (I wonder if these commands take care of dependencies too) or was

Re: request add db45/db46 support to mail/exim port

2007-08-11 Thread Scot Hetzel
On 8/11/07, Hajimu UMEMOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:03:32 -0500 > > "Scot Hetzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > swhetzel> I believe when I made the change to bsd.database.mk, and then > patched > swhetzel> all of the BDB using ports, I had put the lowe

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 03:02:53PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: >> 5. pkg_delete port > > I see. In step 5, "pkg_delete port" wont work if port is required by others > right? So you delete those apps too? Could be a lot of stuff to uninstall, > right? Absolutely correct. That might seem li

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 05:42:30AM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > portupgrade manages all the regular /var/db/pkg/*/* files just like > any other tool. It's got its db files, sure, but they're caches, not > alternate masters. I've never seen a "sync mismatch" (or rather, I > see them all the t

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread RW
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:33:22 -0700 Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 03:02:53PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > >> 5. pkg_delete port > > > > I see. In step 5, "pkg_delete port" wont work if port is required > > by others right? So you delete those apps too?

Re: request add db45/db46 support to mail/exim port

2007-08-11 Thread snowcrash+freebsd
> I have now fixed it so that the exim port doesn't need to set WITH_BDB_VER?=1 > anymore. Instead setting either WITH_BDB or WITH_BDB_VER > 1 will make the > port use Mk/bsd.database.mk to choose the version of BDB to use, otherwise it > will default to the system BDB. > > The updated patch is

Re: cleaning up the x windows

2007-08-11 Thread Peter Jeremy
This discussion is probably more appropriate to freebsd-x11. Followups re-directed. On 2007-Aug-11 21:28:13 +0300, Evren Yurtesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >After a lot of frustration with 300+ seperate ports being installed when I >try to install xorg. I tried to create a xorg-base port. I say

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 03:02:53PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: 5. pkg_delete port I see. In step 5, "pkg_delete port" wont work if port is required by others right? So you delete those apps too? Could be a lot of stuff to uninstall, right? Absolutely correct.

Re: How did upgrading applications happen before portupgrade etc?

2007-08-11 Thread Doug Barton
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: Afaik portmaster's beauty is that it doesn't have any dependencies like portuprade does. Doesn't require ruby etc, so upgrades to them don't cause problems like they could with portupgrade. (Again, haven't used portmaster, so I don't know; this is