On Sunday, April 11, 2010, Tim Kientzle wrote:
> Garrett Cooper wrote:
>
> If I'm understanding you correctly you're saying it's an issue when I do:
>
> pkg_add A B C
>
> # 1 year passes
>
> pkg_add D
>
> # D depends on A, B, C, of different revisions. pkg_add barfs because
> it can't find the app
On 13/04/10 19:09, Lucas Holt wrote:
On 4/10/2010 3:18 PM, k...@pcbsd.org wrote
However for my more hard-core friends, nothing stopping you from
running your own ports down
the road, more power to ya! For doing something like embedded work or
a server this makes total
sense and I think it is a
On 4/13/10 12:09 AM, Lucas Holt wrote:
On 4/10/2010 3:18 PM, k...@pcbsd.org wrote
However for my more hard-core friends, nothing stopping you from
running your own ports down
the road, more power to ya! For doing something like embedded work or
a server this makes total
sense and I think it is
On 4/10/2010 3:18 PM, k...@pcbsd.org wrote
However for my more hard-core friends, nothing stopping you from
running your own ports down
the road, more power to ya! For doing something like embedded work or
a server this makes total
sense and I think it is a huge positive for FreeBSD, no reason t
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 03:44:37PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> On 4/11/10 12:20 PM, Kostik Belousov wrote:
> >On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:13:12PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> >>On 4/11/10 11:44 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote:
> >>>On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:23:33AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
>
On 4/11/10 12:20 PM, Kostik Belousov wrote:
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:13:12PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
On 4/11/10 11:44 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote:
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:23:33AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
On 4/11/10 3:27 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote:
I already pointed in the other
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:13:12PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> On 4/11/10 11:44 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote:
> >On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:23:33AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> >>On 4/11/10 3:27 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote:
> >>
> >>>I already pointed in the other reply in this thread, $ORIGIN dy
On 4/11/10 11:44 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote:
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:23:33AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
On 4/11/10 3:27 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote:
I already pointed in the other reply in this thread, $ORIGIN dynamic
token should solve the issue. See
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-19
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:23:33AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> On 4/11/10 3:27 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote:
>
> >I already pointed in the other reply in this thread, $ORIGIN dynamic
> >token should solve the issue. See
> >http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-1984/chapter3-13312?l=en&a=view
>
>
On 4/11/10 3:27 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote:
I already pointed in the other reply in this thread, $ORIGIN dynamic
token should solve the issue. See
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-1984/chapter3-13312?l=en&a=view
yes, teh question I have since I am not alinker expert is do we
support it? t
On Sunday, April 11, 2010, Tim Kientzle wrote:
> Garrett Cooper wrote:
>
> If I'm understanding you correctly you're saying it's an issue when I do:
>
> pkg_add A B C
>
> # 1 year passes
>
> pkg_add D
>
> # D depends on A, B, C, of different revisions. pkg_add barfs because
> it can't find the app
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 03:45:20PM -0700, Tim Kientzle wrote:
> Julian Elischer wrote:
> >On 4/10/10 12:07 PM, Tim Kientzle wrote:
> >>[1] Actually, PBI might work just fine even for
> >>embedded if we address the disk bloat issue. One
> >>approach would be to make
> >>/Package/Bar/libfoo-2.8.7.so
On 4/10/10 10:06 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
It's more than just diskspace though. Consider the fact that now
you're going to lose a lot of the memory sharing between shared libs
and what-not, and now you'd have to be running N number of daemons .
Take PCBSD for instance -- do they really revisio
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Julian Elischer wrote:
> On 4/10/10 3:35 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
[...]
>> If I'm understanding you correctly you're saying it's an issue when I do:
>>
>> pkg_add A B C
>>
>> # 1 year passes
>>
>> pkg_add D
>>
>> # D depends on A, B, C, of different revisions.
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
> not to be a troll but ...
>
> ... for those that want the ease-of-use of PBIs, why not just use PC-BSD
> in the first place? They seem to have their own QA process in place in
> terms of keeping the various large applications at a sane level
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
[dropped current@ since it doesn't take non-member posts]
Tim Kientzle wrote:
The LD_LIBRARY_PATH issue is the most interesting
problem here. I don't immediately see a solution that
doesn't include teaching ld-elf.so.1 about some form
of per-application library p
On 4/10/10 5:43 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
[dropped current@ since it doesn't take non-member posts]
Tim Kientzle wrote:
The LD_LIBRARY_PATH issue is the most interesting
problem here. I don't immediately see a solution that
doesn't include teaching ld-elf.so.1 about some form
of per-a
[dropped current@ since it doesn't take non-member posts]
Tim Kientzle wrote:
> The LD_LIBRARY_PATH issue is the most interesting
> problem here. I don't immediately see a solution that
> doesn't include teaching ld-elf.so.1 about some form
> of per-application library path.
Maybe install PBI
not to be a troll but ...
... for those that want the ease-of-use of PBIs, why not just use PC-BSD
in the first place? They seem to have their own QA process in place in
terms of keeping the various large applications at a sane level.
Kernel development could (just like it is on the Macs) be don
Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
I do have a question, assuming PBI's were merged officially into the
FreeBSD ports tree,
say I had PostgreSQL Server installed, via PBI. then I wanted to tweak
a setting so I:
cd /usr/ports/databases/postgresql84-server/ && make deinstall clean
would the PBI at this point
Julian Elischer wrote:
On 4/10/10 12:07 PM, Tim Kientzle wrote:
[1] Actually, PBI might work just fine even for
embedded if we address the disk bloat issue. One
approach would be to make
/Package/Bar/libfoo-2.8.7.so
a symlink or hardlink to
/Package/Shared/libfoo-2.8.7.so-
This gives easy sharin
On 4/10/10 12:07 PM, Tim Kientzle wrote:
Garrett Cooper wrote:
If I'm understanding you correctly you're saying it's an issue when I do:
pkg_add A B C
# 1 year passes
pkg_add D
# D depends on A, B, C, of different revisions. pkg_add barfs because
it can't find the applications, etc.
This is
Garrett Cooper wrote:
If I'm understanding you correctly you're saying it's an issue when I do:
pkg_add A B C
# 1 year passes
pkg_add D
# D depends on A, B, C, of different revisions. pkg_add barfs because
it can't find the applications, etc.
This is something that's been hashed over a numbe
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On Sat 10/04/10 3:35 AM , Garrett Cooper wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>
>> yes but there are still dependency problems if you want to install a
>> single
>> package and you installed all the previous ones a year ago.
>> With PBIs each package is self stan
On 4/10/10 3:35 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Julian Elischer wrote:
On 4/10/10 12:20 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Sam Fourman Jr.
wrote:
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Adam Vande More
wrote:
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM,
On 4/10/10 10:36 AM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
I do have a question, assuming PBI's were merged officially into the
FreeBSD ports tree,
say I had PostgreSQL Server installed, via PBI. then I wanted to tweak
a setting so I:
cd /usr/ports/databases/postgresql84-server/&& make deinstall clean
wou
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On Sat 10/04/10 3:35 AM , Garrett Cooper wrote:
[...] >
> yes but there are still dependency problems if you want to install
a single
> package and you installed all the previous ones a year ago.
> With PBIs each packa
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Adam Vande More
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Julian Elischer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Alfred Perlstein , Matt at ix systems Kris (Mr PBI), some
>>> others and I, felt that these ideas seemed to ma
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Julian Elischer wrote:
> On 4/10/10 12:20 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Sam Fourman Jr.
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Adam Vande More
>>> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Julian Elischer
On 4/10/10 12:20 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Adam Vande More wrote:
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Julian Elischer wrote:
Alfred Perlstein , Matt at ix systems Kris (Mr PBI), some
others and I, felt th
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Adam Vande More
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Julian Elischer wrote:
>>>
Alfred Perlstein , Matt at ix systems Kris (Mr
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Adam Vande More wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Julian Elischer wrote:
>
>>
>> Alfred Perlstein , Matt at ix systems Kris (Mr PBI), some
>> others and I, felt that these ideas seemed to make some sense
>> and so I put them here for comment.
>>
>>
> FWIW,
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Julian Elischer wrote:
> sorry for the cross-post..
>
> Last night at the Bay Area FreeBSD Users Group meeting we had
> a discussion about ports, and what is good about them and what
> is bad about them. This has been a topic of discussion quite a
> bit recently and
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Julian Elischer wrote:
>
> Alfred Perlstein , Matt at ix systems Kris (Mr PBI), some
> others and I, felt that these ideas seemed to make some sense
> and so I put them here for comment.
>
>
FWIW, when I see these discussions I'm always left wondering what's the ba
sorry for the cross-post..
Last night at the Bay Area FreeBSD Users Group meeting we had
a discussion about ports, and what is good about them and what
is bad about them. This has been a topic of discussion quite a
bit recently and we were looking for a solution that would
allow us to keep the go
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