Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: > From: Doug Barton > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 01:40:27 -0700 > Message-id: <4e6b227b.5050...@freebsd.org> Doug Barton wrote: > The way that the FreeBSD project handles deleted ports is to leave them > in the CVS repository, where they are easily available to eve

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-12 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:30:16 +0100 Chris Rees wrote: > On 10 September 2011 10:46, Alberto Villa wrote: > > On Saturday 10 September 2011 10:53:54 Chris Rees wrote: > >> I also don't think this is a terrible idea, but perhaps we could > >> just put a little section about Resurrecting dead ports

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-12 Thread Carsten Jensen
On 2011-09-12 01:22, Doug Barton wrote: > On 09/11/2011 13:35, Warren Block wrote: >> Let me suggest a reasonable[1] plan: > > No. :) No more talking is necessary. Doing is necessary (or not, > doesn't really matter to me at this point). > > I think Chris is right, a reasonable first step is a H

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-11 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:35:47 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wrote: > If archival of old historical distfiles is needed, that's not really > a FreeBSD problem. Start a new project with its own website. Quick, > somebody register deadports.org![4] LOL. Love the name! Wonder if it's already taken.

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-11 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/11/2011 13:35, Warren Block wrote: > Let me suggest a reasonable[1] plan: No. :) No more talking is necessary. Doing is necessary (or not, doesn't really matter to me at this point). I think Chris is right, a reasonable first step is a Handbook section on "How to recover a port from the CV

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-11 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, Chris Rees wrote: On 11 September 2011 15:35, Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, Greg Byshenk wrote: On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 01:05:49PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: Why? Because, in the cases here under discussion, there is somethin "wrong" (for some value of 'wro

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-11 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
Just a case study. I was updating today, turns out print/mgv was deleted, so I switched to print/gv. The end. The current port deletion policy needs no change. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 3

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-11 Thread Chris Rees
On 11 September 2011 15:35, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, Greg Byshenk wrote: >> >> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 01:05:49PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: >>> >>> Why? >> >> Because, in the cases here under discussion, there is somethin "wrong" >> (for some value of 'wrong') with the software i

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-11 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, Greg Byshenk wrote: On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 01:05:49PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: Why? Because, in the cases here under discussion, there is somethin "wrong" (for some value of 'wrong') with the software in question. I can't speak for Matthias or Chris, but I think the po

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-11 Thread Greg Byshenk
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 01:05:49PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 06:48:30PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: > > On 10 September 2011 18:15, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 04:45:02PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > > >> > > >> I want to make installing dead ports ha

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Chris Rees
On 11 Sep 2011 00:14, wrote: > > Chris Rees wrote: > > > cvsweb can also be used to find the day the port was deleted. > > Shouldn't that date be available in the MOVED entry? > Hm, indeed, and creative use of read and expr could automate that. Chris

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread perryh
Chris Rees wrote: > cvsweb can also be used to find the day the port was deleted. Shouldn't that date be available in the MOVED entry? ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, se

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 06:48:30PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: > On 10 September 2011 18:15, Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 04:45:02PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > >> > >> I want to make installing dead ports harder for users. > > > > Why? > > Someone who wants to install a port t

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
I was thinking of this problem, and i believe compressed file is not the solution, since the ports tree infrastructure changes, and that removed ports should be changed also. The second problem is where to store distfiles? Because the majority (nb: not all of them) of removed ports it's a dis

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Chris Rees
On 10 September 2011 19:39, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Chris Rees wrote: > >> On 10 September 2011 18:15, Chad Perrin wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 04:45:02PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: I want to make installing dead ports harder for users. >>> >>> Why? >>> >

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Warren Block
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Chris Rees wrote: On 10 September 2011 18:15, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 04:45:02PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: I want to make installing dead ports harder for users. Why? Someone who wants to install a port that has been deprecated and removed sho

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Chris Rees
On 10 September 2011 18:15, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 04:45:02PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: >> >> I want to make installing dead ports harder for users. > > Why? > Someone who wants to install a port that has been deprecated and removed should really have enough skills to ch

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 04:45:02PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > > I want to make installing dead ports harder for users. Why? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpVidnJd8Edb.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 10.09.2011 10:40, schrieb Doug Barton: > The way that the FreeBSD project handles deleted ports is to leave them > in the CVS repository, where they are easily available to everyone who > would like to access them. > > However I think that your idea is interesting, and I'd love to see the > peo

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Chris Rees
On 10 September 2011 10:46, Alberto Villa wrote: > On Saturday 10 September 2011 10:53:54 Chris Rees wrote: >> I also don't think this is a terrible idea, but perhaps we could just >> put a little section about Resurrecting dead ports with a quick cvs >> tutorial into the Porter's Handbook? > > wh

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Alberto Villa
On Saturday 10 September 2011 10:53:54 Chris Rees wrote: > I also don't think this is a terrible idea, but perhaps we could just > put a little section about Resurrecting dead ports with a quick cvs > tutorial into the Porter's Handbook? why not writing a make target in bsd.port.mk to do it? cvs i

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Chris Rees
On 10 September 2011 09:40, Doug Barton wrote: > The way that the FreeBSD project handles deleted ports is to leave them > in the CVS repository, where they are easily available to everyone who > would like to access them. > > However I think that your idea is interesting, and I'd love to see the

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Doug Barton
The way that the FreeBSD project handles deleted ports is to leave them in the CVS repository, where they are easily available to everyone who would like to access them. However I think that your idea is interesting, and I'd love to see the people who are deeply concerned about deleted ports pursu

Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Carsten Jensen
I've seen many requests of late, for ports that are no longer in active development, abandoned etc but still working, but they've been removed from ports. here's an idea, I don't know if this has been discussed before. It requires work of course. But doesn't require a person to know how to develop