On 13/03/2011 03:39, Charlie Kester wrote:
> On Sat 12 Mar 2011 at 18:28:42 PST Doug Barton wrote:
>> On 03/12/2011 18:13, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
>>> Charlie Kester wrote:
>>>
A few minutes ago, I was answering a post on the forums, in which
a user expressed surprise (and outrage)
Charlie Kester wrote:
[...]
A few minutes ago, I was answering a post on the forums, in which a user
expressed surprise (and outrage) that the phpmyadmin port was installing
libX11 and similar things on his server. By installing it myself and
then using "pkg_tree -v" to examine the dependencies
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Hans Ottevanger
wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:28:40AM +0100, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
>>> If anybody is interested I could consolidate my results and post a few
>>> patches.
>>
>> I would like to see th
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:28:40AM +0100, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
>> If anybody is interested I could consolidate my results and post a few
>> patches.
>
> I would like to see them.
>
> This is the kind of really-dull-but-necessary work that
On 12/03/2011 23:25, Doug Barton wrote:
> That said, what is really needed is for the OPTIONS framework to take
> environmental preferences into account when dealing with defaults. In
> other words, if WITHOUT_X11 is defined in make.conf, then the defaults
> for OPTIONS that are related to requirin
On 03/10/11 11:28, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
By making a few trivial changes i can make xorg-7.5.1 fully
independent on run-time of Python, Perl and Bison. The same can be
done for kde-lite-3.5.10_8 when I also disable the Perl support in
net-snmp, which is a dependency of kdeutils-3.5.10_8.
If any
Doug Barton wrote:
> ... what is really needed is for the OPTIONS framework to take
> environmental preferences into account when dealing with defaults
> ... if WITHOUT_X11 is defined in make.conf, then the defaults for
> OPTIONS that are related to requiring X11 stuff should be off ...
> that lo
On Sat 12 Mar 2011 at 18:28:42 PST Doug Barton wrote:
On 03/12/2011 18:13, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Charlie Kester wrote:
A few minutes ago, I was answering a post on the forums, in which
a user expressed surprise (and outrage) that the phpmyadmin port
was installing libX11 and similar th
On 03/12/2011 18:13, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Charlie Kester wrote:
A few minutes ago, I was answering a post on the forums, in which
a user expressed surprise (and outrage) that the phpmyadmin port
was installing libX11 and similar things on his server. By
installing it myself and then u
Charlie Kester wrote:
> A few minutes ago, I was answering a post on the forums, in which
> a user expressed surprise (and outrage) that the phpmyadmin port
> was installing libX11 and similar things on his server. By
> installing it myself and then using "pkg_tree -v" to examine the
> dependenc
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 02:12:34PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote:
> On Sat 12 Mar 2011 at 13:53:07 PST Mark Linimon wrote:
> >On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:28:40AM +0100, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
> >> If anybody is interested I could consolidate my results and post a few
> >> patches.
> >
> >I would like
On Sat 12 Mar 2011 at 15:57:09 PST Charlie Kester wrote:
What's really needed are better tools to help maintainers see what
their ports are installing, and for them to exercise more disciple in
asking "Is this really necessary, or should I make it optional? Is it
really a run dependency, or is it
On Sat 12 Mar 2011 at 15:25:09 PST Doug Barton wrote:
On 03/12/2011 14:12, Charlie Kester wrote:
I'm not aware of any tool that will display a similar dependency tree
for a port *before* it is installed.
portmaster doesn't _quite_ do that, but it does walk you through all of
the config screen
On 03/12/2011 14:12, Charlie Kester wrote:
I'm not aware of any tool that will display a similar dependency tree
for a port *before* it is installed.
portmaster doesn't _quite_ do that, but it does walk you through all of
the config screens (and thus, the related dependencies) prior to
buildi
Mark Linimon said:
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 02:12:34PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote:
> > I'm not aware of any tool that will display a similar dependency tree
> > for a port *before* it is installed.
>
> http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portdependencytree.py
>
> Note: it's running a live set of queri
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 02:35:23PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote:
> Is the underlying sourcecode available somewhere?
The code is really gross :-(
Right now I don't have the cycles to 'productize' it, sorry. Feel
free to abuse that server in the meantime.
mcl
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On Sat 12 Mar 2011 at 14:21:35 PST Mark Linimon wrote:
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 02:12:34PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote:
I'm not aware of any tool that will display a similar dependency tree
for a port *before* it is installed.
http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portdependencytree.py
Note: it's runnin
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 02:12:34PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote:
> I'm not aware of any tool that will display a similar dependency tree
> for a port *before* it is installed.
http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portdependencytree.py
Note: it's running a live set of queries on the tree, so it's slow.
mcl
On Sat 12 Mar 2011 at 13:53:07 PST Mark Linimon wrote:
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:28:40AM +0100, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
If anybody is interested I could consolidate my results and post a few patches.
I would like to see them.
This is the kind of really-dull-but-necessary work that we need to
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:28:40AM +0100, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
> If anybody is interested I could consolidate my results and post a few
> patches.
I would like to see them.
This is the kind of really-dull-but-necessary work that we need to have
people work on to fight the creeping dependencies
On Thursday, March 10, 2011 03:28:40 am Hans Ottevanger wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Michael Scheidell
>
> wrote:
> > On 3/8/11 4:42 AM, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
> >> One of them that I already hunted down is bison-2.4.3,1 that gets
> >> dragged in via gobject-introspection-0.9.12_1 whe
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
Indeed I see this 'shortcut' being used all over the place. But in the
cases I have looked into the last few days, i.e. the xorg-7.5.1 and
kde-lite-3.5.10_8 ports, the problem is just a trivial, but slightly
different. It appears that in many occasions
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Michael Scheidell
wrote:
>
>
> On 3/8/11 4:42 AM, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
>>
>> One of them that I already hunted down is bison-2.4.3,1 that gets
>> dragged in via gobject-introspection-0.9.12_1 when installing
>> xorg-7,5.1 (even as a package). This is caused by bis
On 3/8/11 4:42 AM, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
One of them that I already hunted down is bison-2.4.3,1 that gets
dragged in via gobject-introspection-0.9.12_1 when installing
xorg-7,5.1 (even as a package). This is caused by bison specified as a
dependency of type "both" in the port Makefile of
gobj
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