Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-22 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:09:45 -0700 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > mtools doesn't use config options. You have to set them on the > > command line when you install the port. > > When you install it, or when you build it? Build, of course, although that also usually imp

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-21 Thread perryh
Wesley Shields wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 05:35:15PM -0700, Cynthia Flynn wrote: > > Steven Kreuzer wrote: > > > On Mar 20, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Cynthia Flynn wrote: > > >> Can someone confirm for me that a normal port install > > >> of mtools brings up a configuration menu in which the > > >>

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-21 Thread perryh
Gary Jennejohn wrote: > mtools doesn't use config options. You have to set them on the > command line when you install the port. When you install it, or when you build it? ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/list

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-21 Thread Wesley Shields
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 05:35:15PM -0700, Cynthia Flynn wrote: > Steven Kreuzer wrote: > > On Mar 20, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Cynthia Flynn wrote: > >> Can someone confirm for me that a normal port install of mtools brings > >> up a configuration menu in which the WITHOUT_X11 option can be set? I > >>

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-21 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:24:26 -0700 Cynthia Flynn <1cynthia2fly...@telus.net> wrote: > Steven Kreuzer wrote: > > On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:06 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > >> Gary Jennejohn wrote: > >>> Luigi Rizzo wrote: > ... Cynthia Flynn wrote: > >>> [snip - syslinux pulls in too much X

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-20 Thread Doug Barton
Steven Kreuzer wrote: > when you do a make install for the mtools port, it does not prompt you > if you would like to build the port without X11. I think enough users have expressed the opinion (which I share) that it would be reasonable to add an OPTION to this effect. We're fairly well into the

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-20 Thread Cynthia Flynn
Steven Kreuzer wrote: On Mar 20, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Cynthia Flynn wrote: Can someone confirm for me that a normal port install of mtools brings up a configuration menu in which the WITHOUT_X11 option can be set? I do not remember seeing any such thing, but it has probably been 6 months since I

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-20 Thread Scott Lambert
Over the years, my default make.conf has accumulated options to tell ports not to include X11 dependencies. It doesn't always work, but I'd never have known that something like mtools had a GUI option. NOX11= yes NO_X11= yes WITHOUT_X11=yes I haven't reaped the older declara

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-20 Thread Steven Kreuzer
On Mar 20, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Michel Talon wrote: Steven Kreuzer wrote: Can we consider people who use the CLI an advanced user? If so, the expectation that they will be able to build a port with -DWITHOUT_X11 is not unreasonable. People who are more likely to use the GUI are the ones who will

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-20 Thread Michel Talon
Steven Kreuzer wrote: > Can we consider people who use the CLI an advanced user? If so, the > expectation that they will be able to build a port with -DWITHOUT_X11 > is not unreasonable. > People who are more likely to use the GUI are the ones who will not be > aware of the WITHOUT_X11 knob.

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-20 Thread Michel Talon
Steven Kreuzer wrote: > Personally, I think it makes more sense for mtools to be > the full and complete representation > of the actual program. Personnally i think that such opinion considerably harms the ports system, by transforming some ports (fortunately not many) into a kitchen sink of dep

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-20 Thread Steven Kreuzer
On Mar 20, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Cynthia Flynn wrote: Steven Kreuzer wrote: On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:06 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Gary Jennejohn wrote: Luigi Rizzo wrote: ... Cynthia Flynn wrote: [snip - syslinux pulls in too much X11 stuff] I think the extra dependencies that you find

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-20 Thread Cynthia Flynn
Steven Kreuzer wrote: On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:06 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Gary Jennejohn wrote: Luigi Rizzo wrote: ... Cynthia Flynn wrote: [snip - syslinux pulls in too much X11 stuff] I think the extra dependencies that you find listed for syslinux: [snip] come directly from mtools

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-20 Thread Steven Kreuzer
On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:06 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Gary Jennejohn wrote: Luigi Rizzo wrote: ... Cynthia Flynn wrote: [snip - syslinux pulls in too much X11 stuff] I think the extra dependencies that you find listed for syslinux: [snip] come directly from mtools ... Yeah. It look

Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-19 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Gary Jennejohn wrote: Luigi Rizzo wrote: ... Cynthia Flynn wrote: [snip - syslinux pulls in too much X11 stuff] I think the extra dependencies that you find listed for syslinux: [snip] come directly from mtools ... Yeah. It looks like mt

mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72)

2009-03-19 Thread perryh
Gary Jennejohn wrote: > Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > ... Cynthia Flynn wrote: > [snip - syslinux pulls in too much X11 stuff] > > I think the extra dependencies that you find listed for syslinux: > > [snip] > > come directly from mtools ... > > Yeah. It looks like mtools uses X11 by default, which IMH

Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72

2009-03-18 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:11:38 +0100 Luigi Rizzo wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 01:25:41PM -0700, Cynthia Flynn wrote: [snip - syslinux pulls in too much X11 stuff] > I think the extra dependencies that you find listed for syslinux: > > > grep pkgdep /var/db/pkg/syslinux-3.72/+CONTENTS >

Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72

2009-03-17 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 01:25:41PM -0700, Cynthia Flynn wrote: > I would like to draw your attention to this posting in regards to the > syslinux FreeBSD port: > > http://syslinux.zytor.com/archives/2009-March/011749.html > > FWIW, that posting belongs to this thread: > > http://syslinux.zy

FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72

2009-03-17 Thread Cynthia Flynn
I would like to draw your attention to this posting in regards to the syslinux FreeBSD port: http://syslinux.zytor.com/archives/2009-March/011749.html FWIW, that posting belongs to this thread: http://syslinux.zytor.com/archives/2009-February/011548.html Of more importance is H. Peter Anv