Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-22 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:38:02 -0600, Mikhail T. wrote: Jeremy Lea wrote: Hi, On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 08:16:43PM -0500, Mikhail T. wrote: The throbber is pretty important UI for a browser. If you break it, people will complain. Uhm, what is "throbber"? Could you elaborate? The little

Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-22 Thread Mikhail T.
Jeremy Lea wrote: Hi, On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 08:16:43PM -0500, Mikhail T. wrote: The throbber is pretty important UI for a browser. If you break it, people will complain. Uhm, what is "throbber"? Could you elaborate? The little spinning things in the tabs, or the right hand

Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-22 Thread Jeremy Lea
Hi, On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 08:16:43PM -0500, Mikhail T. wrote: > >The throbber is pretty important UI for a browser. If you break it, > >people will complain. > Uhm, what is "throbber"? Could you elaborate? The little spinning things in the tabs, or the right hand side of the menu bar, which te

Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-22 Thread Mikhail T.
Jeremy Lea wrote: Hi, On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 05:06:52PM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: Was not one of the advantages of APNG the fact, that a non-Animated PNG reader will still show the first frame of the animation? In that case, the icons will simply be non-animated... The throbber

Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-22 Thread Jeremy Lea
Hi, On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 05:06:52PM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Was not one of the advantages of APNG the fact, that a non-Animated PNG > reader will still show the first frame of the animation? In that case, > the icons will simply be non-animated... The throbber is pretty important UI

Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-22 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Sent by Jeremy Lea: Hi, On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 03:10:59PM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: Personally, I think, I'm in favor of the last approach, at least for now that animated PNG (APNG) content is non-existent anyway Except for many of the chrome icons in firefox, etc. i.e. doing th

Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-22 Thread Jeremy Lea
Hi, On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 03:10:59PM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Personally, I think, I'm in favor of the last approach, at least for > now that animated PNG (APNG) content is non-existent anyway Except for many of the chrome icons in firefox, etc. i.e. doing this with break firefox. Do n

Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-22 Thread Mikhail Teterin
= Especially now that APNG is pretty much out of the bag, my opinion is = that the libpng people should either adopt APNG into their tree, or = yield control over PNG to Mozilla.org. It's not about being the "right" = thing to do, it is about avoiding a highly user-confusing feature-based = fork o

Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-18 Thread Coleman Kane
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 23:02 -0600, Jeremy Messenger wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:38:56 -0600, Coleman Kane > wrote: > > > On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 22:54 -0600, Jeremy Messenger wrote: > >> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:22:34 -0600, Coleman Kane > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > I recently pl

Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-15 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:38:56 -0600, Coleman Kane wrote: On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 22:54 -0600, Jeremy Messenger wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:22:34 -0600, Coleman Kane wrote: > Hello, > > I recently played with building Thunderbird 3.0b1 from source (it works > pretty well, btw). I was playin

Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-15 Thread Coleman Kane
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 22:54 -0600, Jeremy Messenger wrote: > On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:22:34 -0600, Coleman Kane > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I recently played with building Thunderbird 3.0b1 from source (it works > > pretty well, btw). I was playing with some of the options to enable > > using the

Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-14 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:22:34 -0600, Coleman Kane wrote: Hello, I recently played with building Thunderbird 3.0b1 from source (it works pretty well, btw). I was playing with some of the options to enable using the system versions of a number of libraries, rather than relying upon statically lin

Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-14 Thread Coleman Kane
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 02:28 +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 01:22:34PM -0500, Coleman Kane wrote: > > One thing that I noticed was the APNG patch from here: > > * http://littlesvr.ca/apng/. > > This seems to be expected by Thunderbird and is part of the latest > > source tr

Re: APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-14 Thread Andrey Chernov
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 01:22:34PM -0500, Coleman Kane wrote: > One thing that I noticed was the APNG patch from here: > * http://littlesvr.ca/apng/. > This seems to be expected by Thunderbird and is part of the latest > source tree. Mozilla has been maintaining a format spec here: > * https://

APNG patch for graphics/png port

2008-12-14 Thread Coleman Kane
Hello, I recently played with building Thunderbird 3.0b1 from source (it works pretty well, btw). I was playing with some of the options to enable using the system versions of a number of libraries, rather than relying upon statically linking them into the project. One thing that I noticed was th