Re: routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-24 Thread Eugene Grosbein
24.06.2020 15:20, Alexander V. Chernikov wrote: > Different people have different opinions :-) > Let me rephrase the point I'm trying to make: RIP original design was created > a long time ago. The current landscape is different: there are multiple > protocols that are superset of RIP. There are

Re: routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-24 Thread Chris
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 10:07:34 +0100 Alexander V. Chernikov melif...@freebsd.org said 22.06.2020, 14:54, "Hiroki Sato" : > "Alexander V. Chernikov" wrote >   in <273191592779...@mail.yandex.ru>: > > me> Hey, > me> > me> I would like to propose removal of sbin/routed and usr.sbin/route6d. Please

Re: routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-24 Thread Alexander V . Chernikov
22.06.2020, 14:54, "Hiroki Sato" : > "Alexander V. Chernikov" wrote >   in <273191592779...@mail.yandex.ru>: > > me> Hey, > me> > me> I would like to propose removal of sbin/routed and usr.sbin/route6d. > >  I am still using both of them in production environments because they >  work well at leas

Re: routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-24 Thread Alexander V . Chernikov
22.06.2020, 13:50, "Rodney W. Grimes" : >>  Hey, Hi Rodney, >> >>  I would like to propose removal of sbin/routed and usr.sbin/route6d. > > I disagree with removal, as your analysis is flawed. Thank you for the feedback! > >>  routed(8) is the daemon implementing RIPv2 routing protocol. >>  route6d

Re: routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-23 Thread Eugene Grosbein
23.06.2020 12:33, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > Can you agree with that logic Eugene? I'm not against keeping routed(8) in the base while it has happy users raising voice for it. ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/

Re: routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-22 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> 23.06.2020 2:26, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > >> 22.06.2020 19:49, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > >>> Whats unmaintained about code that has no need to change cause it just > >>> pretty much works? > >> Have you actually tried running routed(8) as base for real network with > >> loops, > >> mix of p

Re: routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-22 Thread Eugene Grosbein
23.06.2020 2:26, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> 22.06.2020 19:49, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >>> Whats unmaintained about code that has no need to change cause it just >>> pretty much works? >> Have you actually tried running routed(8) as base for real network with >> loops, >> mix of p2p and ethernet-

Re: routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-22 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> 22.06.2020 19:49, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > Whats unmaintained about code that has no need to change cause it just > > pretty much works? > > Have you actually tried running routed(8) as base for real network with loops, > mix of p2p and ethernet-like interfaces, IPv4 aliases, need of offs

Re: routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-22 Thread Hiroki Sato
"Alexander V. Chernikov" wrote in <273191592779...@mail.yandex.ru>: me> Hey, me> me> I would like to propose removal of sbin/routed and usr.sbin/route6d. I am still using both of them in production environments because they work well at least for my configurations and most of promising alt

Re: routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-22 Thread Eugene Grosbein
22.06.2020 19:49, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > Whats unmaintained about code that has no need to change cause it just pretty > much works? Have you actually tried running routed(8) as base for real network with loops, mix of p2p and ethernet-like interfaces, IPv4 aliases, need of offset-lists and w

Re: routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-22 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> Hey, > > I would like to propose removal of sbin/routed and usr.sbin/route6d. I disagree with removal, as your analysis is flawed. > routed(8) is the daemon implementing RIPv2 routing protocol. > route6d(8) is the daemon implementing RIPng routing protocol for IPv6. > > RIP [1] was one of th

Re: routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-21 Thread Eugene Grosbein
22.06.2020 6:05, Alexander V. Chernikov wrote: > To summarise: RIP protocol is obsolete, implementations for newer protocols > exists in ports, implementation in base is unmaintained. Too many reasons but one real one: it's broken since FreeBSD 4 at least when I tried to use it in production

Re: routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-21 Thread Conrad Meyer
Sounds good to me. We don't need a RIP daemon in base, and if needed, it is just a pkg install away via one of the myrriad maintained routing daemons. Thanks, Conrad On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 4:06 PM Alexander V. Chernikov wrote: > > Hey, > > I would like to propose removal of sbin/routed and us

routed && route6d removal proposal

2020-06-21 Thread Alexander V . Chernikov
Hey, I would like to propose removal of sbin/routed and usr.sbin/route6d. routed(8) is the daemon implementing RIPv2 routing protocol. route6d(8) is the daemon implementing RIPng routing protocol for IPv6. RIP [1] was one of the first protocols used in the networking. The first version was im