Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-25 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 07:56 AM 6/25/2002 +0200, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: >Yes, but the solution in PPP only allows you to lower the MSS to >1452 so that the return packet is never bigger than 1492 bytes. >However, if you need an even lower MSS, you are still stuck with >tcpmssd. I need to lower my MSS to about 1410 to

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-24 Thread Udo Erdelhoff
Hi, On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 03:59:39PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > If I recall correctly, the tcpmssd > daemon was to fix client connection issue behind the FreeBSD box, not > directly from the FreeBSD box. exactly. The daemon enforces an upper limit on the MSS of any packet passing over the '

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-24 Thread Mike Tancsa
Hi, Thanks for the suggestion. If I recall correctly, the tcpmssd daemon was to fix client connection issue behind the FreeBSD box, not directly from the FreeBSD box. The problems we are seeing are directly on the FreeBSD box, but only with certain DSL concentrators. Also, I thought

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-24 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Mike Tancsa wrote: Re DSL ... > (Note, I have tried various MTU and MRU settings. > Thanks for any pointers. Perhaps you need /usr/ports/net/tcpmssd - TCP Maximum Segment Size option corrector I recently got DSL with Deutsche Telekom, then read the very enjoyable http://www.ru

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-18 Thread Barney Wolff
ail and may > >help you solve it. > > > >http://renaud.waldura.com/doc/freebsd/pppoe/ > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Tom Samplonius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Mike Tancsa" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
: "Tom Samplonius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Mike Tancsa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:09 PM >Subject: Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE) > > > > > > Well, if you nee

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
gt; >To: "Mike Tancsa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:09 PM >Subject: Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE) > > > > > > Well, if you need to find the MTU, the ppp logs should tell you what the &g

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
Actually, I spoke too soon. The host I was testing against was the wrong one :( Its still broken with the set mtu max 1452 statement. ---Mike At 05:16 PM 6/18/2002 -0700, Tom Samplonius wrote: > Possibly. There is a PPPoE session to the Redback (or ERX), then >usually a L2TP sess

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 05:16 PM 6/18/2002 -0700, Tom Samplonius wrote: > Possibly. There is a PPPoE session to the Redback (or ERX), then >usually a L2TP session to the ISP. A PPPoE client connecting to the >Redback (or ERX) should be told a valid MTU. PPP tunel to L2TP tunnel >raises some interesting possibli

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-18 Thread Tom Samplonius
Possibly. There is a PPPoE session to the Redback (or ERX), then usually a L2TP session to the ISP. A PPPoE client connecting to the Redback (or ERX) should be told a valid MTU. PPP tunel to L2TP tunnel raises some interesting possiblities. I wonder how much mucking about the SMS does to t

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
Yes, that did it! Thanks very much! What is different about that, and me setting it on the other end as part of the virt-template ? ---Mike At 12:33 AM 6/19/2002 +0100, Brian Somers wrote: >Perhaps adding > > set mtu max 1452 > >will help ? > >On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:54:49 -0400, M

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
Hi, In terms of the MTU, I can set that in my router as I am the ISP :-) Not sure how it works with Telus on the west coast, but with Bell, PPPoE is done between the client and the DSL concentrator. Then the session is handed off to the ISP via an L2TP tunnel. I can control that par

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-18 Thread Brian Somers
Perhaps adding set mtu max 1452 will help ? On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:54:49 -0400, Mike Tancsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The DSL whole supplier we use (Bell Canada) has been turfing their Redback > SMSes and moving to an ERX from unisphere networks. > > With the Redback, all was great...

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-18 Thread Renaud Waldura
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:09 PM Subject: Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE) > > Well, if you need to find the MTU, the ppp logs should tell you what the > remote end is telling you to use. > > Usually, if you are having a MTU problem,

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-18 Thread Tom Samplonius
Well, if you need to find the MTU, the ppp logs should tell you what the remote end is telling you to use. Usually, if you are having a MTU problem, it relates to fragmentation, MTU detection and ICMP filters. FreeBSD uses MTU detection by default. However, MTU detection requires that ICMP

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
Hi, the mss fixup is enabled by default and is part of the stock PPP from what I understand. Also, this was all working just great when the other end was a redback. The problems only started when the telco moved the termination to the ERX. ---Mike At 04:34 PM 18/06/2002 -0500, Nick

Re: tracking down strange MTU issues with PPPoE)

2002-06-18 Thread Nick Rogness
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > The DSL whole supplier we use (Bell Canada) has been turfing their > Redback SMSes and moving to an ERX from unisphere networks. There was, at one time, MTU problems with PPPoE. See the tcpmssd port or other online documentation. I d