Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-21 Thread Kevin Day
On Feb 21, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Wes Peters wrote: As much as anything I just object to the semantic dissonance in "multiple" "default". Think about it. I still haven't decided what it means at the packet level to have multiple default routes. Does that mean that, not having found a "bett

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 22/02/2008, Wes Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As much as anything I just object to the semantic dissonance in > "multiple" "default". Think about it. > > I still haven't decided what it means at the packet level to have > multiple default routes. Does that mean that, not having found

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-21 Thread Wes Peters
On Feb 20, 2008, at 1:54 PM, Bruce M. Simpson wrote: Wes Peters wrote: I see a number of people have replied to this message offering solutions of how to accomplish your migration, using a variety of tools available to you in FreeBSD. I've always found this community very supportive in th

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-20 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
Wes Peters wrote: I see a number of people have replied to this message offering solutions of how to accomplish your migration, using a variety of tools available to you in FreeBSD. I've always found this community very supportive in this fashion, and I'm glad they've jumped in to help you in

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-19 Thread Wes Peters
At 18 Feb 2008 21:55:50 +, Nick Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 2008-02-18 21:36:18+, Bill Moran writes: In response to Nick Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have a multi-home host: more than one IP address. The addresses are in separate subnets but run over the same etherne

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-19 Thread Julian Elischer
Bruce M. Simpson wrote: Tom Judge wrote: However FreeBSD's routing table does not currently support policy routing without some help from the firewall. The only way to achieve your goal is to use one of the firewalls (pf/ipfw/ipf) to do the policy routing for you. If anyone wants to take

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-19 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
Tom Judge wrote: However FreeBSD's routing table does not currently support policy routing without some help from the firewall. The only way to achieve your goal is to use one of the firewalls (pf/ipfw/ipf) to do the policy routing for you. If anyone wants to take this on, start looking at

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-19 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
Nick Barnes wrote: I want packets from address A1 to be sent via gateway G1, but packets from address A2 to be sent via gateway G2. How do I do this? Can I just have more than one default route? I'm remote from the machine in question, so I don't want to tinker with the default route until I'm

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Bill Moran
Eygene Ryabinkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the education! I have only one question: what it 'Yugo'? > I had not found it in nearby dictionaries ;)) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugo -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 412-422-3463x4023

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Eygene Ryabinkin
Bill, Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 05:54:33PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > > > I can be done with CARP > > > if both providers support it and are willing to work together. > > > > Very, very unlikely for me ;)) > > Overall, Eygene, you're tryi

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Julian Elischer
Nick Barnes wrote: At 2008-02-18 22:12:48+, Julian Elischer writes: Unless you actually want all your machines to be remotely accessible from the outside, you should probably just turn on NAT on the new ISP interface, turn off the old one, and be done with it. The machines I'm interested

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Eygene Ryabinkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 05:06:42PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > > > I had faced such situation once: I had multihomed host that was > > > running Apache daemon that was announced via two DNS names that > > > were corresponding to two different IPs,

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Tom Judge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Bill Moran wrote: > > In response to Eygene Ryabinkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> Bill, > >> > >> Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 04:36:18PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > >>> I would suggest you ask yourself (and possibly the list) _why_ you think > >>> multipl

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Eygene Ryabinkin
Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 05:06:42PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > > I had faced such situation once: I had multihomed host that was > > running Apache daemon that was announced via two DNS names that > > were corresponding to two different IPs, going via two different > > providers. When the first provid

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Nick Barnes
At 2008-02-18 22:12:48+, Julian Elischer writes: > Unless you actually want all your machines to be remotely > accessible from the outside, you should probably just turn on > NAT on the new ISP interface, turn off the old one, and be > done with it. The machines I'm interested in for these pu

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Judge
Bill Moran wrote: In response to Eygene Ryabinkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Bill, Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 04:36:18PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: I would suggest you ask yourself (and possibly the list) _why_ you think multiple default routes is necessary ... what is it that you're hoping to accomplish.

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Julian Elischer
Nick Barnes wrote: At 2008-02-18 21:36:18+, Bill Moran writes: In response to Nick Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have a multi-home host: more than one IP address. The addresses are in separate subnets but run over the same ethernet segment (this is a temporary situation while I switch an

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Eygene Ryabinkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Bill, > > Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 04:36:18PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > > I would suggest you ask yourself (and possibly the list) _why_ you think > > multiple default routes is necessary ... what is it that you're hoping > > to accomplish. I'm

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Julian Elischer
Nick Barnes wrote: I have a multi-home host: more than one IP address. The addresses are in separate subnets but run over the same ethernet segment (this is a temporary situation while I switch an office network over from one network provider to another). I want packets from address A1 to be se

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Judge
Nick Barnes wrote: At 2008-02-18 21:36:18+, Bill Moran writes: I would rather send packets from the P2 subnet addresses to the P2 router, while the packets from the P1 subnet addresses keep going to the P1 router. Apparently I can do this with some IPFW cunning, but that seems like overk

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Nick Barnes
At 2008-02-18 21:36:18+, Bill Moran writes: > In response to Nick Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I have a multi-home host: more than one IP address. The addresses are > > in separate subnets but run over the same ethernet segment (this is a > > temporary situation while I switch an office

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Eygene Ryabinkin
Bill, Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 04:36:18PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > I would suggest you ask yourself (and possibly the list) _why_ you think > multiple default routes is necessary ... what is it that you're hoping > to accomplish. I'm guessing your looking for some sort of redundancy, > in which cas

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Kevin Day
On Feb 18, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Nick Barnes wrote: I have a multi-home host: more than one IP address. The addresses are in separate subnets but run over the same ethernet segment (this is a temporary situation while I switch an office network over from one network provider to another). I want p

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Eygene Ryabinkin
Nick, good day. Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 09:00:54PM +, Nick Barnes wrote: > I have a multi-home host: more than one IP address. The addresses are > in separate subnets but run over the same ethernet segment (this is a > temporary situation while I switch an office network over from one > network

Re: Multiple default routes on multihome host

2008-02-18 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Nick Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have a multi-home host: more than one IP address. The addresses are > in separate subnets but run over the same ethernet segment (this is a > temporary situation while I switch an office network over from one > network provider to another). > >