Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-24 Thread Eygene Ryabinkin
Richard, good day. Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 02:10:06PM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > > Interesting what is the golden aim of software based router we should be > > trying to reach? > > Well for starters, to have a routing stack that is based on any modern > techniques developed in the l

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-24 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:10:06 -0700 "Kevin Oberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ever run into a non-existent 'olive'? Hi Kevin, I dont understand :) > Or even a J series Juniper? > Juniper put together a very impressive software based routing system > that is FreeBSD based. Yes, I know of this,

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-22 Thread Randy Bush
> I would like to see NOTHING running anything that looked too much like > 5.x. And I can't really think the 6.x (while much better that 5) would > be a good choice for a route processor. juniper merely uses freebsd as a framework. all route processing, and anything to do with routing, is extreme

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-21 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 09:46:02PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > Richard A Steenbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Honestly, FreeBSD routing code is pretty poor as far as a modern router > > goes. If you throw enough CPU at it you can brute force your way through > > plenty of things, bu

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-21 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:46:02 +1000 > From: Norberto Meijome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:54:49 -0400 > Richard A Steenbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Honestly, FreeBSD routing code is pretty poor as far as a modern router > > goes. If yo

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-21 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:28:30 -0700 > From: Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * Yuri Lukin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070920 16:49] wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:24:09 -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote > > > > > > Juniper is based on FreeBSD. ;-) > > > > > > > O

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-21 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 04:52:05PM +0100, Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > Folks have been asking about XORP in this thread. > > XORP can take a full BGP feed just fine as long as you have enough > memory.; for a full default-free-zone feed, you are looking at in the > region of 1GB - 1.5GB, perhaps le

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-21 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
Folks have been asking about XORP in this thread. XORP can take a full BGP feed just fine as long as you have enough memory.; for a full default-free-zone feed, you are looking at in the region of 1GB - 1.5GB, perhaps less if you use aggregation. If you look at the NSDI '05 paper you'll see t

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-21 Thread Steve Bertrand
> I'm not saying you should use polling. I'm saying that not using polling > makes for more context switches. 64bit registers are twice as large as > 32bit registers. There will be a bigger penalty on stack/memory usage > and therefore slower transitions from one context to another (read: > handlin

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-21 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:54:49 -0400 Richard A Steenbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Honestly, FreeBSD routing code is pretty poor as far as a modern router > goes. If you throw enough CPU at it you can brute force your way through > plenty of things, but in the context of modern commercial rou

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-20 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:49:11AM -0400, Yuri Lukin wrote: > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:24:09 -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote > > > > Juniper is based on FreeBSD. ;-) > > On old code from the 4.x days I think, right? Technically no, they've been updating large portions of the FreeBSD code over time.

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Yuri Lukin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070920 16:49] wrote: > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:24:09 -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote > > > > Juniper is based on FreeBSD. ;-) > > > > On old code from the 4.x days I think, right? In the current release, yes. Would you like a router based on 5.x? :) -- - Alfred

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-20 Thread Yuri Lukin
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:24:09 -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote > > Juniper is based on FreeBSD. ;-) > On old code from the 4.x days I think, right? ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscr

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-20 Thread Sten Daniel Soersdal
Steve Bertrand wrote: > Can you please explain in a technical way how polling can benefit me here in a dual-stacked situation? In all honesty, the last few months, I've been seeing many mails to the lists saying 'polling' has caused issues. (I'm not arguing, I'm just looking for reason ;) I'm

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Steve Bertrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070919 21:14] wrote: > >>> Essentially, I'd like a board with at *least* 6 PCI-X slots, and perhaps > >>> 8 RAM slots (if I can find justification that my router will work better > >>> with up to 16GB of memory). > > > > Why would you go with PCI-X? it's slow

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-20 Thread Cristian KLEIN
Steve Bertrand wrote: >> But OpenBGPD doesn't look like an alternative for you, if you are using >> ipv6 as it only supports ipv4 route distribution (according to man pages) > > IPv6 is an absolute MANDATORY requirement. If a recommendation does not > support IPv6, than it will NOT fit into my env

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-19 Thread Steve Bertrand
>>> Essentially, I'd like a board with at *least* 6 PCI-X slots, and perhaps >>> 8 RAM slots (if I can find justification that my router will work better >>> with up to 16GB of memory). > > Why would you go with PCI-X? it's slow and getting end-of life.. > > go for PCI-Express. > there are quad P

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-19 Thread Steve Bertrand
I'm going to reply this first response in full context, and Cc my colleague so he can see this. Please reply-all as he is not subscribed, and remove anything not in context from here on out... >> Here is my scenario and minimum requirements: >> >> - two upstreams, BGP, accepting default-originate

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-19 Thread Julian Elischer
Sten Daniel Soersdal wrote: Steve Bertrand wrote: Essentially, I'd like a board with at *least* 6 PCI-X slots, and perhaps 8 RAM slots (if I can find justification that my router will work better with up to 16GB of memory). Why would you go with PCI-X? it's slow and getting end-of life.. g

Re: Quagga as border router

2007-09-19 Thread Sten Daniel Soersdal
Steve Bertrand wrote: Hi all, First off, sorry for being so verbose, but any reply to any portion will help me! I was referred to this list from over at -isp/-questions after a question I asked regarding the viability of an ISP using Quagga under FreeBSD as a border router. Many suggested Open

Quagga as border router

2007-09-19 Thread Steve Bertrand
Hi all, First off, sorry for being so verbose, but any reply to any portion will help me! I was referred to this list from over at -isp/-questions after a question I asked regarding the viability of an ISP using Quagga under FreeBSD as a border router. Many suggested OpenBGP and OpenOSPF as alte