Re: Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-22 Thread Remko Lodder
On Feb 22, 2011, at 1:20 PM, kevin wrote: >> There is a also the caveat: The switch will probably _not_ forward the STP > BPDU's from one port to another. > > You were correct -- my initial testing confirmed this. Would the same issue > arise if I employed a gateway IP on the /bridge/ instead,

RE: Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-22 Thread kevin
>There is a also the caveat: The switch will probably _not_ forward the STP BPDU's from one port to another. You were correct -- my initial testing confirmed this. Would the same issue arise if I employed a gateway IP on the /bridge/ instead, and used CARP as a failover mechanism? The firewall n

Re: Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-20 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On 2/19/2011 7:32 PM, Tom Judge wrote: In this setup it does not matter where the root bridge is, each of the firewalls will always have on port in disguarding state as both ports lead back to the same peer bridge. With states such as: fw 1 - 1: forwarding fw 2 - 1: forwarding fw 1 - 2: disguard

RE: Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-19 Thread kevin
>There is a also the caveat: The switch will probably _not_ forward the STP BPDU's from one port to another. This is because if the switch is a properly >compliant bridge it will not forwards the frames as they are marked as link local ethernet multicast frame which is not allowed to forwarded by

Re: Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-19 Thread Tom Judge
On 19/02/2011 11:07, kevin wrote: >> No, you have to specify stp there. The default STP mode is RSTP. >> If you don't specify stp, you'll get a dumb ethernet bridge. > Thanks very much for clarification. This helps me immensely. My room for > testing is limited so this will help me take the right s

Re: Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-19 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On 2/19/2011 6:07 PM, kevin wrote: One quick last question : would you recommend pfsync in this scenario, between bridges? I've been hearing a lot of issues with pfsync but I'm not sure what behavior to expect in a bridging scenario such as this one. Can't really comment about pfsync as i have

Re: Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-19 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On 2/19/2011 6:11 PM, kevin wrote: One other thing : id 00:17:d6:a9:31:e7 priority 16384 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 And : root id 00:12:cf:69:e9:ea priority 16384 ifcost 0 port 0 I was under the impression the priority for the root bridge should be a lower number ? The priority is checked

RE: Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-19 Thread kevin
One other thing : > id 00:17:d6:a9:31:e7 priority 16384 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 And : > root id 00:12:cf:69:e9:ea priority 16384 ifcost 0 port 0 I was under the impression the priority for the root bridge should be a lower number ? Would you be able to post your rc.conf bridge entries for each

RE: Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-19 Thread kevin
>No, you have to specify stp there. The default STP mode is RSTP. >If you don't specify stp, you'll get a dumb ethernet bridge. Thanks very much for clarification. This helps me immensely. My room for testing is limited so this will help me take the right steps necessary. One quick last question

Re: Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-19 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On 2/19/2011 4:52 PM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: I believe if you don't specify 'stp' in the rc.conf ifconfig statement, freebsd by default sets the bridge as 'rstp' : Yes, that's correct. It helps sometimes when you read the actual message before trying to answer:) No, you have to specify

Re: Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-19 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On 2/19/2011 4:13 PM, kevin wrote: Could you send your ifconfig bridge output from both firewalls? If STP is turned off on the four switch ports that the firewalls are patched, one of the two firewalls must be root of the spanning tree. I believe if you don't specify 'stp' in the rc.conf ifco

RE: Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-19 Thread kevin
>Could you send your ifconfig bridge output from both firewalls? >If STP is turned off on the four switch ports that the firewalls are >patched, one of the two firewalls must be root of the spanning tree. I believe if you don't specify 'stp' in the rc.conf ifconfig statement, freebsd by default s

Re: Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-19 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On 2/18/2011 7:49 PM, kevin wrote: My current testing has shown little promise -- both firewalls will go up, traffic will only go to the first firewall. If I reboot that first firewall, no traffic will flow to the second bridging firewall. Note that all IPs on my network (inside and out) are publ

Bridging + VLANS + RSTP / MSTP

2011-02-18 Thread kevin
Hello, I have a fairly straightforward network in a collocated facility. I have a FreeBSD PF Bridging firewall (2 interfaces bridged, 1 interface for access). The FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE firewall provides inbound filtering through a Dell PowerConnect 5448 switch, divided into two vlans. My network i