Re: [PATCH] kern/681110 re-roll of RFC3522 (Eifel detection) patchset

2007-04-13 Thread Mark Allman
> That sounds like an option... but is it worth it? Can you give us > access to your testbench that shows eifel to be an important > improvement over the current eifel-less stack we have right now? My > guess is that SACK nullified most of eifel's importance. SACK doesn't help in the domain whe

Re: [PATCH] kern/681110 re-roll of RFC3522 (Eifel detection) patchset

2007-04-12 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, LI Xin wrote: That's disappointing, but better safe than sorry. BTW. Is there any legal alternative, e.g. make this as an option like WANT_IDEA? That sounds like an option... but is it worth it? Can you give us access to your testbench that shows eifel to be an importa

Re: [PATCH] kern/681110 re-roll of RFC3522 (Eifel detection) patchset

2007-04-12 Thread Mark Allman
> BTW. Is there any legal alternative, e.g. make this as an option like > WANT_IDEA? I do not know what WANT_IDEA is. As far as alternatives, there is F-RTO (RFC 4138) and DSACK (RFCs 2883 & 3708). We have also worked on a response that is different (and unencumbered). It is just an internet-d

Re: [PATCH] kern/681110 re-roll of RFC3522 (Eifel detection) patchset

2007-04-12 Thread LI Xin
Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > First of all, > > Xin: Many thanks for your excellent work on bringing the code up to date. > > Mike Silbersack wrote: >> >> No. That is not going into FreeBSD if I can help it. >> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/ERICSSON-EIFEL >> On top of that, we don't need yet another

Re: [PATCH] kern/681110 re-roll of RFC3522 (Eifel detection) patchset

2007-04-12 Thread Bruce M. Simpson
First of all, Xin: Many thanks for your excellent work on bringing the code up to date. Mike Silbersack wrote: No. That is not going into FreeBSD if I can help it. http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/ERICSSON-EIFEL On top of that, we don't need yet another complication to the already too-complex re

Re: [PATCH] kern/681110 re-roll of RFC3522 (Eifel detection) patchset

2007-04-11 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, LI Xin wrote: Hi, I found this by accident on our wiki: Re-roll and bring in the Eifel detection originally submitted by Jeffrey Hsu. No. That is not going into FreeBSD if I can help it. http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/ERICSSON-EIFEL On top of that, we don't need yet an

[PATCH] kern/681110 re-roll of RFC3522 (Eifel detection) patchset

2007-04-11 Thread LI Xin
Hi, I found this by accident on our wiki: Re-roll and bring in the Eifel detection originally submitted by Jeffrey Hsu. * PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/68110 * Eifel detection has the potential to improve network performance, in those cases where TCP has erroneously