Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Eugene Grosbein
20.06.2019 6:32, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >>> I've not run a userland without V6 in a long time once I started to have >>> issues with some things. >> >> Can you give an example of such script in base system, please? >> >> If you have such script or binary not in our base, it's not our fault :-) >

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Robert Huff
Rodney W. Grimes writes: > >Wider question: > >Say I'm running a system with both IPv4 and IPv6 enabled. > >Stuff Happens(tm) and I want to completely disable IPv6 for some > > indefinite but temporary period - not chamge any configuration > > settings or firewall rules, but jus

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
[ Charset windows-1252 unsupported, converting... ] > 19.06.2019 22:42, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > >> 18.06.2019 10:10, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >>> How can I turn off IPv6 entirely without rebuilding the kernel? > >> You cannot. GENERIC kernel specifically enables IPv6 support and you need

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> In message > > Andreas Nilsson wrote: > > >> That is *not* what the Handbook says. Please read it. > >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html > >> > >Ok, so the handbook is wrong. It's a bug in the documentation. > > ACK Probably should just elimina

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> 19.06.2019 22:42, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > >> 18.06.2019 10:10, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >>> How can I turn off IPv6 entirely without rebuilding the kernel? > >> You cannot. GENERIC kernel specifically enables IPv6 support and you need > >> to disable it at compile time. > >> And if you

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> 19.06.2019 23:18, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > >> 19.06.2019 3:57, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >> > >>> And god only knows how much will break once I've done that. > >> > >> IPv6 will break only. > > > > That is incorrect, scripts that would silently do nothing can > > now infact fail, trust me

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> Rodney W. Grimes writes: > > > > And god only knows how much will break once I've done that. How many > > other > > > people have tested -all- of the resulting binaries, seriously, on actual > > > production systems? (I may be the first one ever, at least for 12.0.) > > > > I also agree

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message Andreas Nilsson wrote: >> That is *not* what the Handbook says. Please read it. >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html >> >Ok, so the handbook is wrong. It's a bug in the documentation. ACK >As soon as set firewall_script instead of firewa

Re: localhost woes -- help requested

2019-06-19 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <74b7ccf0-967f-40b1-9818-3417cd8d1...@punkt.de>, "Patrick M. Hausen" wrote: >https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6761 Wow. Thanks for that. Quite certainly, 6.3 (part 1) is confirming that this is the way things are now, and have been, apparently since 2013. I really didn't know. Now

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Eugene Grosbein
19.06.2019 22:42, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> 18.06.2019 10:10, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >>> How can I turn off IPv6 entirely without rebuilding the kernel? >> You cannot. GENERIC kernel specifically enables IPv6 support and you need to >> disable it at compile time. >> And if you do, you better

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Eugene Grosbein
19.06.2019 23:18, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> 19.06.2019 3:57, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >> >>> And god only knows how much will break once I've done that. >> >> IPv6 will break only. > > That is incorrect, scripts that would silently do nothing can > now infact fail, trust me, first hand experie

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Robert Huff
Rodney W. Grimes writes: > > And god only knows how much will break once I've done that. How many other > > people have tested -all- of the resulting binaries, seriously, on actual > > production systems? (I may be the first one ever, at least for 12.0.) > > I also agree here, running a

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> In message > > Freddie Cash wrote: > > >For someone who doesn't want to be preached to about the benefits of IPv6, > >you certainly do a lot of preaching about not wanting IPv6. :) > > Guilty as charged. > > >You've been given the tools to do exactly what you want: > > - comment out IPv6

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> 19.06.2019 3:57, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > > And god only knows how much will break once I've done that. > > IPv6 will break only. That is incorrect, scripts that would silently do nothing can now infact fail, trust me, first hand experience. This can have consequences beyong "IPv6 will

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> In message <23816.53518.998090.665...@jerusalem.litteratus.org>, > Robert Huff wrote: > > >> Actually, no, that's not how one is supposed to enable one's own set > >> of ipfw ules. To do that, the Handbook (Sec. 30.4.1) says very clearly > >> that one should do: > >> > >> firewall_e

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> 18.06.2019 10:10, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > > How can I turn off IPv6 entirely without rebuilding the kernel? > > You cannot. GENERIC kernel specifically enables IPv6 support and you need to > disable it at compile time. > And if you do, you better rebuild the world too using WITHOUT_INET

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> I do not wish to begin any religious war here. I understand that IPv6 > can be a sensitive and sometimes even emotional issue for many people. > Speaking only for myself, and only for the present moment, I can say > that for me, IPv6 represents only an annoyance and a very sizable > distraction.

Re: localhost woes -- help requested

2019-06-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > In message <201906190617.x5j6hqma016...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, > > Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > > >> In message <201906181719.x5ihj8g0014...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, > > >> "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > >> > > >> >What is in /etc/host.conf, /etc/resolv.conf, do you have DNS running? > > >> > >

Re: localhost woes -- help requested

2019-06-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> In message <201906190617.x5j6hqma016...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, > Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > >> In message <201906181719.x5ihj8g0014...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, > >> "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > >> > >> >What is in /etc/host.conf, /etc/resolv.conf, do you have DNS running? > >> > >> > >> 1) http

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi! > Am 19.06.2019 um 09:14 schrieb Andreas Nilsson : > As soon as set firewall_script instead of firewall_type your problems will > be solved. Just try it. The man page for rc.conf will tell you the same > thing. He will need to adjust his rule file, though. Setting firewall_type to an absolute

Re: Eliminating IPv6 (?)

2019-06-19 Thread Andreas Nilsson
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 23:28 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > In message w...@mail.gmail.com> > Andreas Nilsson wrote: > > >But why are you even running rc.firewall if it does not do what you want? > > You are asking me the very question that *I* have been asking myself > since my "upgrade" to 12.0.

Re: localhost woes -- help requested

2019-06-19 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi! > Am 19.06.2019 um 08:23 schrieb Ronald F. Guilmette : > So basically you're telling me that local-unbound has taken it upon > itself to decide for me, regardless of what is or isn't in my /etc/hosts > file, what addresses "localhost" should resolve to?? > > If so, that really is rather presu