Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-13 Thread Rui Paulo
2013/04/13 16:01、Scott Long のメッセージ: > Maybe something else, but whatever it is, it should be done. If you and Gleb > don't want to do this, I will. I already started writing a guide. See here for a very incomplete version: http://people.freebsd.org/~rpaulo/ipf-deprecation/article.html ___

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-13 Thread Scott Long
On Apr 13, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Rui Paulo wrote: > On 2013/04/13, at 5:03, Scott Long wrote: >> You target audience for this isn't people who track CURRENT, it's people who >> are on 7, 8, or 9 and looking to update to 10.x sometime in the future. > > Yes, I'm aware of that, but the problem re

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-13 Thread Rui Paulo
On 2013/04/13, at 5:03, Scott Long wrote: > You target audience for this isn't people who track CURRENT, it's people who > are on 7, 8, or 9 and looking to update to 10.x sometime in the future. Yes, I'm aware of that, but the problem remains. If ipfilter is broken or gets broken because of the

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-13 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Scott, On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:31:09PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: S> One thing that FreeBSD is bad about (and this really applies to many open source projects) when deprecating something is that the developer and release engineering groups rarely provide adequate, if any, tools to help users

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-13 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Scott Long wrote: > > On Apr 13, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Rui Paulo wrote: > >> On 2013/04/12, at 22:31, Scott Long wrote: >> >>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: >>> On 2013/04/11, at 13:18, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Lack of maintainer in a n

Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer

2013-04-13 Thread Scott Long
On Apr 13, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Rui Paulo wrote: > On 2013/04/12, at 22:31, Scott Long wrote: > >> On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: >> >>> On 2013/04/11, at 13:18, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >>> Lack of maintainer in a near future would lead to bitrot due to changes in other

Re: bge(4) sysctl tuneables -- a blast from the past.

2013-04-13 Thread Bruce Evans
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013, Sean Bruno wrote: http://markmail.org/message/brpfcifnf2742pff So, these never happened. *sigh* I think they should. Any objections? FreeBSD has too many knobs, but it would be nice if the bge defaults weren't so broken, so that they don't need overriding. Bruce _