Turn libc.so into an ld script

2013-05-25 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
Hi, There has been quite a while since the SSP glue has been committed in the tree. Yet there has always been a gloomy corner case since then that was reported from time to time, mainly by port maintainers, which has been hard to reproduce. This is the main showstopper to enable SSP for ports by

Re: Writing a (BSD like) Operating Systems From Scratch

2013-05-25 Thread Ivan Voras
On 24/05/2013 18:57, Welcome, Traiano wrote: > You appear not to realize that to even begin working with one of the existing > projects, you'd best have a solid understanding of OSes to begin with, > which brings up an interesting catch -22 that goes something like: > > "You can't join the clu

Re: Writing a (BSD like) Operating Systems From Scratch

2013-05-25 Thread Julian H. Stacey
"Welcome, Traiano" wrote: > May I ask where you get the divine wisdom to know where I "would be better > working with" ? don't you think that would be best left up to me? etc ... elided As politeness fails: Waste your own time as you want. Don't waste FreeBSD people's time, asking advice how

Re: Writing a (BSD like) Operating Systems From Scratch

2013-05-25 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Jorge Alberto Garcia wrote: > > Hello Joshua, i think you should try XV6, i am pretty one person can > understand it to get a general yet down to the earth felling about a unix > like system; then try with Minix2 > > http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2012/xv6.html > > Tnx. > -J.A. Garcia Great to

Re: Turn libc.so into an ld script

2013-05-25 Thread Bryan Drewery
I've been running my systems with this modification since Feb 2012 and have seen no problems beyond file(1) usage on /usr/lib/libc.so in openssl's configure. I've taken ports/168010 and ports/138228 for exp-runs. I want to get (optional) SSP support into ports this year. I'll start a libc.ld exp-

FreeBSD installers and future direction

2013-05-25 Thread Bruce Cran
I heard there was some discussion at BSDCan about the direction of a future FreeBSD installer. Considering we currently have bsdinstall, pc-sysinstall, and an effort to revive sysinstall, I'd be interested to know what was decided (if anything) and whether I could help make progress towards ge

Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction

2013-05-25 Thread Matt Olander
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Bruce Cran wrote: > > I heard there was some discussion at BSDCan about the direction of a future > FreeBSD installer. Considering we currently have bsdinstall, pc-sysinstall, > and an effort to revive sysinstall, I'd be interested to know what was > decided (i

Creative X-Fi Audio Notebook (SB0950) support?

2013-05-25 Thread Zhihao Yuan
It's not a X-Fi sound card at all. Its chip is CA0106-WBTLF (from Wikipedia). But it's the only sound card available on ExpressCard, so it's kinda a great choice for laptop users. Is that possible to add its support into FreeBSD OSS? On my FreeBSD 8.4 machine, it's recognized as May 25 12:36:2

Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction

2013-05-25 Thread Bruce Cran
On 25/05/2013 17:15, Matt Olander wrote: From my vague recollection, we discussed improving bsdinstall by tying it in with pc-sysinstall, which we've been threatening to do for at least a year. Also, there was much discussion about Devin's bsdconfig perhaps tying in with a Google SoC Project. I

Re: Turn libc.so into an ld script

2013-05-25 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 09:03:57AM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote: > I've been running my systems with this modification since Feb 2012 and > have seen no problems beyond file(1) usage on /usr/lib/libc.so in > openssl's configure. > > I've taken ports/168010 and ports/138228 for exp-runs. I want to ge

Performance improvement to strnlen().

2013-05-25 Thread Lee Thomas
Hello FreeBSD devs, I have found a performance improvement to libc's strnlen(). lib/libc/string/strnlen.c is a trivial byte-by-byte implementation, where strlen.c has a smarter word-by-word implementation. I have implemented strnlen similarly to strlen. It runs about 4x as fast, at the cost o

Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction

2013-05-25 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
On 05/25/13 13:26, Bruce Cran wrote: On 25/05/2013 17:15, Matt Olander wrote: From my vague recollection, we discussed improving bsdinstall by tying it in with pc-sysinstall, which we've been threatening to do for at least a year. Also, there was much discussion about Devin's bsdconfig perhaps

Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction

2013-05-25 Thread Dirk Engling
On 26.05.13 01:07, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > I'm not aware of any movement there (on either side of the table). I'd > personally be very suspicious of an all-sh(1) future -- by far the > cleanest parts of bsdinstall are in C -- and this is especially true for > interacting with geom. That said, si

Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction

2013-05-25 Thread Super Bisquit
Please don't turn this into an architecture dependent mess. PCBSD is i386 & AMD64 only. On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Dirk Engling wrote: > On 26.05.13 01:07, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > > > I'm not aware of any movement there (on either side of the table). I'd > > personally be very suspiciou

Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction

2013-05-25 Thread Teske, Devin
On May 25, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Matt Olander wrote: > On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Bruce Cran wrote: >> >> I heard there was some discussion at BSDCan about the direction of a future >> FreeBSD installer. Considering we currently have bsdinstall, pc-sysinstall, >> and an effort to revive sy

Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction

2013-05-25 Thread Teske, Devin
On May 25, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On 25/05/2013 17:15, Matt Olander wrote: >> From my vague recollection, we discussed improving bsdinstall by tying >> it in with pc-sysinstall, which we've been threatening to do for at >> least a year. Also, there was much discussion about Devin'

Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction

2013-05-25 Thread Teske, Devin
On May 25, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > On 05/25/13 13:26, Bruce Cran wrote: >> On 25/05/2013 17:15, Matt Olander wrote: >>> From my vague recollection, we discussed improving bsdinstall by tying >>> it in with pc-sysinstall, which we've been threatening to do for at >>> least a ye

Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction

2013-05-25 Thread Teske, Devin
On May 25, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Dirk Engling wrote: > On 26.05.13 01:07, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > >> I'm not aware of any movement there (on either side of the table). I'd >> personally be very suspicious of an all-sh(1) future -- by far the >> cleanest parts of bsdinstall are in C -- and this is

Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction

2013-05-25 Thread Teske, Devin
On May 25, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Super Bisquit wrote: > Please don't turn this into an architecture dependent mess. PCBSD is i386 & > AMD64 only. > There's a GSoC project (of which I'm potential mentor) to fix that. However, you are entirely right… we can't in all seriousness even think about usi

Re: Performance improvement to strnlen().

2013-05-25 Thread Václav Zeman
On 05/25/2013 10:27 PM, Lee Thomas wrote: > Hello FreeBSD devs, > > I have found a performance improvement to libc's strnlen(). > lib/libc/string/strnlen.c is a trivial byte-by-byte implementation, > where strlen.c has a smarter word-by-word implementation. I have > implemented strnlen similarly t