Re: 8 to 9: Kernel modularization -- did it change?

2012-02-18 Thread perryh
Doug Barton wrote: > loading modules through loader.conf is > veeryy slooww ... Is it noticeably slower to load (say) a 6MB kernel + 2MB of modules than to load an 8MB kernel? If so, any idea why? ___ freebsd-hackers@freebs

Re: devd based AUTOMOUNTER

2012-02-18 Thread vermaden
Added a check if ntfs-3g is available, if not then mount_ntfs is used instead. Added deleting of empty directories at ${MNTPREFIX}. Added ${MNTPREFIX} to be set to /mnt or /media according to preference #! /bin/sh PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin MNTPREFIX="/media

Re: devd based AUTOMOUNTER

2012-02-18 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Saturday 18 February 2012 10:48:11 vermaden wrote: > Added a check if ntfs-3g is available, if not then mount_ntfs is used > instead. Added deleting of empty directories at ${MNTPREFIX}. > Added ${MNTPREFIX} to be set to /mnt or /media according to preference > > #! /bin/sh > > PATH=/bin:/sbin

Re: devd based AUTOMOUNTER

2012-02-18 Thread Uffe Jakobsen
On 2012-02-18 14:09, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: On Saturday 18 February 2012 10:48:11 vermaden wrote: Added a check if ntfs-3g is available, if not then mount_ntfs is used instead. Added deleting of empty directories at ${MNTPREFIX}. Added ${MNTPREFIX} to be set to /mnt or /media according to

Re: devd based AUTOMOUNTER

2012-02-18 Thread Gleb Kurtsou
On (18/02/2012 10:48), vermaden wrote: > Added a check if ntfs-3g is available, if not then mount_ntfs is used instead. > Added deleting of empty directories at ${MNTPREFIX}. > Added ${MNTPREFIX} to be set to /mnt or /media according to preference > > #! /bin/sh > > PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/

callouts precision

2012-02-18 Thread Andriy Gapon
Just want to double-check myself. It seems that currently, thanks to event timers, we mostly should be able to schedule a hardware timer to fire at almost arbitrary moment with very fine precision. OTOH, our callout subsystem still seems to be completely tick oriented in the sense that all timeout

Re: 8 to 9: Kernel modularization -- did it change?

2012-02-18 Thread Adrian Chadd
Very very inefficient BIOS and loader behaviour? I'm not sure libufs is caching anything? Adrian ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-un

Re: callouts precision

2012-02-18 Thread Alexander Motin
On 18.02.2012 21:05, Andriy Gapon wrote: Just want to double-check myself. It seems that currently, thanks to event timers, we mostly should be able to schedule a hardware timer to fire at almost arbitrary moment with very fine precision. OTOH, our callout subsystem still seems to be completely t

Re: devd based AUTOMOUNTER

2012-02-18 Thread Lars Engels
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 06:06:23PM +0100, Uffe Jakobsen wrote: > > > On 2012-02-18 14:09, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > > On Saturday 18 February 2012 10:48:11 vermaden wrote: > >> Added a check if ntfs-3g is available, if not then mount_ntfs is used > >> instead. Added deleting of empty directori

Re: callouts precision

2012-02-18 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 18/02/2012 21:42 Alexander Motin said the following: > On 18.02.2012 21:05, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> Just want to double-check myself. >> It seems that currently, thanks to event timers, we mostly should be able to >> schedule a hardware timer to fire at almost arbitrary moment with very fine >> p

Re: 8 to 9: Kernel modularization -- did it change?

2012-02-18 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- b. f. (Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:50:01 +) * | Most of these questions are more suitable for the freebsd-stable or | freebsd-questions mailing lists, rather than freebsd-hackers. I hesitated about starting this "8 to 9" thread here or on *-stable, and decided to use this list only because I

Re: xargs short-circuit

2012-02-18 Thread Matthew Story
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Matthew Story wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Matthew Story wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Jilles Tjoelker wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 01:34:49PM -0500, Matthew Story wrote: >>> > After reading the man-page, and browsing around th

Re: 8 to 9: Kernel modularization -- did it change?

2012-02-18 Thread b. f.
Most of these questions are more suitable for the freebsd-stable or freebsd-questions mailing lists, rather than freebsd-hackers. Alex Goncharov wrote: > What I see in 9 now is very confusing for me; e.g.: > > * Why 'snd_hda.ko' even exists, if the whole 'snd_hda' implementation lives in > 'kern

Re: 8 to 9: Kernel modularization -- did it change?

2012-02-18 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 18 February 2012 12:50, b. f. wrote: >> I will use this -- thank you! > > You should be aware that kld_list doesn't always work.  For example, > my Nvidia nForce MCP61 network adapter works with nfe(4) when I load > if_nfe.ko from loader.conf, but fails to function properly if the same > modul

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-02-18 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:45:47PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > 1. Incidentally, what exactly does constitute a major release? That point in time where we guarantee that we break a certain degree of backwards compatibility. (Well, that's the key component. Feature- additions ride on top of that.) >

Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle

2012-02-18 Thread Super Bisquit
The individual maintainers of each architecture have the right to make a "PRE-RELEASE" of the system at any time. Come to think of it, anyone who can has that right- that is to make a pre-release. On 2/18/12, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:45:47PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: >> 1. In

Re: 8 to 9: Kernel modularization -- did it change?

2012-02-18 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/18/2012 10:43, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Doug Barton wrote: > >> loading modules through loader.conf is >> veeryy slooww ... > > Is it noticeably slower to load (say) a 6MB kernel + 2MB of > modules than to load an 8MB kernel? I don't know, that wasn't t

Re: callouts precision

2012-02-18 Thread Alexander Motin
On 18.02.2012 22:40, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 18/02/2012 21:42 Alexander Motin said the following: On 18.02.2012 21:05, Andriy Gapon wrote: Just want to double-check myself. It seems that currently, thanks to event timers, we mostly should be able to schedule a hardware timer to fire at almost ar