On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Pan Tsu wrote:
> Zhihao Yuan writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm a Computer Science student at Northern Illinois University, and I
>> used FreeBSD for a long time. I'm interested in the idea that to
>> improve the nvi in the base system. My proposal is slightly different:
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:39:44AM -0500, Zhihao Yuan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a Computer Science student at Northern Illinois University, and I
> used FreeBSD for a long time. I'm interested in the idea that to
> improve the nvi in the base system. My proposal is slightly different:
> I want to fork
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:39:44AM -0500, Zhihao Yuan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a Computer Science student at Northern Illinois University, and I
> used FreeBSD for a long time. I'm interested in the idea that to
> improve the nvi in the base system. My proposal is slightly different:
> I want to fork
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:39:44AM -0500, Zhihao Yuan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a Computer Science student at Northern Illinois University, and I
> used FreeBSD for a long time. I'm interested in the idea that to
> improve the nvi in the base system. My proposal is slightly different:
> I want to fork
Zhihao Yuan writes:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a Computer Science student at Northern Illinois University, and I
> used FreeBSD for a long time. I'm interested in the idea that to
> improve the nvi in the base system. My proposal is slightly different:
> I want to fork nvi and make it iconv-awared (or mbyte-m
Am 23.03.2011 10:13, schrieb Alexey Shuvaev:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:39:44AM -0500, Zhihao Yuan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm a Computer Science student at Northern Illinois University, and I
>> used FreeBSD for a long time. I'm interested in the idea that to
>> improve the nvi in the base system. M
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 02:38:20PM +0100, Matthias Andree wrote:
> Am 23.03.2011 10:13, schrieb Alexey Shuvaev:
> > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:39:44AM -0500, Zhihao Yuan wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm a Computer Science student at Northern Illinois University, and I
> >> used FreeBSD for a long time
Am 23.03.2011 16:06, schrieb Alexey Shuvaev:
> Yes, nvi-devel is not developed any more, but I was saying that nvi
> in base is even older than nvi-devel, and it is worth looking at
> it. At least for the iconv support. As for the BDB, maybe strip it just
> out, if possible?
I don't believe it's
Zhihao Yuan writes:
>> Why not just use "traditional vi"?
>>
>> http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/ (lives under editors/2bsd-vi)
>
> This one lacks of many feature, compared with nvi.
nvi also lacks some features, e.g. lisp, modelines, sourceany.
ex-vi is more lightweight
# both built with DEBUG
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Pan Tsu wrote:
> Zhihao Yuan writes:
>
>>> Why not just use "traditional vi"?
>>>
>>> http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/ (lives under editors/2bsd-vi)
>>
>> This one lacks of many feature, compared with nvi.
>
> nvi also lacks some features, e.g. lisp, modelines, so
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Zhihao Yuan wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Pan Tsu wrote:
>> Zhihao Yuan writes:
>>> I'm not sure whether the FreeBSD system administrators (who opens 100
>>> ssh sessions) agree with that to replace the nvi in base system with
>>> this one.
>>
>
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Zhihao Yuan wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Pan Tsu wrote:
>>> Zhihao Yuan writes:
I'm not sure whether the FreeBSD system administrators (who opens 100
ssh sessions) agree wi
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Zhihao Yuan wrote:
> Among *all* the GNU/Linux distributions I used, they include a vim
> compiled in tiny mode (ln -s it to vi), which doubles the size of nvi,
> in their base systems. A vim.tiny contains much more features compared
> with nvi, but it's not c
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Zhihao Yuan wrote:
>> Among *all* the GNU/Linux distributions I used, they include a vim
>> compiled in tiny mode (ln -s it to vi), which doubles the size of nvi,
>> in their base systems. A vim.tiny
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 08:20:07PM -0500, Zhihao Yuan wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Zhihao Yuan wrote:
> >> Among *all* the GNU/Linux distributions I used, they include a vim
> >> compiled in tiny mode (ln -s it to
Zhihao Yuan writes:
> If you really want to use vi in a 32MB mem environment, the ex-vi may
> make sense. It consumes 1600KB memory while nvi consumes 2000KB. Note
> that the ee editor uses same amount memory as ex-vi.
ex-vi memory usage can be reduced a bit, e.g. by ~20% if you drop
-DLISPCOD
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Pan Tsu wrote:
> Zhihao Yuan writes:
>
>> If you really want to use vi in a 32MB mem environment, the ex-vi may
>> make sense. It consumes 1600KB memory while nvi consumes 2000KB. Note
>> that the ee editor uses same amount memory as ex-vi.
>
> ex-vi memory usage
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