Re: kmod if_alc in 8-CURRENT

2010-10-22 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, October 21, 2010 a las 08:44:32PM +0200, Paul B Mahol escribió: > On 10/21/10, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El dia Thursday, October 21, 2010 a las 08:35:09PM +0200, Paul B Mahol > > escribio: > > > >> > # cd /usr/src > >> > # make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > >> > > >> > does not

Re: kmod if_alc in 8-CURRENT

2010-10-22 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, October 22, 2010 a las 09:14:03AM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > # make > Warning: Object directory not changed from original > /usr/src/sys/modules/alc > cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE > -nostdinc -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finli > ne-limit=800

Re: Summary: Re: Spin down HDD after disk sync or before power off

2010-10-22 Thread Alexander Motin
Alexander Best wrote: > the current implementation (kern.cam.power_down) uses a singe "sleep" > operation, whereas the patch by oliver uses "flush" and "standby immediate". Sleep is just more aggressive. It puts device into deeper sleep state. I don't think it is important from wearing point of vi

Re: Deterministic builds?

2010-10-22 Thread Ulrich Spörlein
On Thu, 21.10.2010 at 21:50:26 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote: > Den 21/10/2010 kl. 19.57 skrev Ulrich Spörlein: > > On Mon, 11.10.2010 at 11:35:42 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote: > >> I'm beginning to think that it should at least be optional. Removing e.g. > >> build times, mtimes and path to OBJD

Re: Summary: Re: Spin down HDD after disk sync or before power off

2010-10-22 Thread Alexander Best
On Fri Oct 22 10, Alexander Motin wrote: > Alexander Best wrote: > > the current implementation (kern.cam.power_down) uses a singe "sleep" > > operation, whereas the patch by oliver uses "flush" and "standby immediate". > > Sleep is just more aggressive. It puts device into deeper sleep state. I >

Re: Summary: Re: Spin down HDD after disk sync or before power off

2010-10-22 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Friday 22 October 2010 00:32:54 Paul Wootton wrote: > Actually, the green series does spin all the way down, well at least > the drive I have does. > Here is the output from one of my drives, that I do not think has > long left to live. > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > Model Family:

Re: Summary: Re: Spin down HDD after disk sync or before power off

2010-10-22 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 12:07:36 +0200 Tijl Coosemans wrote: > FreeBSD frequently accesses hard disks (log files, flushing dirty > memory pages every 30s,...) and laptop drives tend to have aggressive > power saving settings by default. That's why your load cycle is so > high. I'm not sure the APM v

Tested wanted: BSD-licensed libgcc replacement, libcompiler_rt

2010-10-22 Thread Ed Schouten
Hello everyone, At EuroBSDCon I was talking with some committers active in the area of Clang (brooks, kwm, others) about replacing our libgcc shipped with GCC 4.2.1 with a BSD-licensed version. The LLVM folks have a BSD licensed implementation called libcompiler_rt. See: http://compiler-r

Re: Tested wanted: BSD-licensed libgcc replacement, libcompiler_rt

2010-10-22 Thread Ed Schouten
* Ed Schouten , 20101022 16:30: > - Rebuild all your software (yes, I know it's unfortunate). Right after I sent this, I thought I'd better clarify this. You don't need to rebuild your software. This change will not break the existing ABI. This step is just mentioned here,

Lock Order Reversal in nmount/unmount of devfs on NFS

2010-10-22 Thread Linda Messerschmidt
When mounting a devfs filesystem on top of a directory in an NFS filesystem under 8.1-RELEASE-p1 r213075M, the following lock order reversal is reported: lock order reversal: 1st 0xc264bbdc nfs (nfs) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1058 2nd 0xc264bce8 devfs (devfs) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c

Re: Lock Order Reversal in nmount/unmount of devfs on NFS

2010-10-22 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 01:46:54PM -0400, Linda Messerschmidt wrote: > When mounting a devfs filesystem on top of a directory in an NFS > filesystem under 8.1-RELEASE-p1 r213075M, the following lock order > reversal is reported: > > lock order reversal: > 1st 0xc264bbdc nfs (nfs) @ /usr/src/sys/k

Re: Lock Order Reversal in nmount/unmount of devfs on NFS

2010-10-22 Thread Linda Messerschmidt
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Kostik Belousov wrote: > The LORs are believed to be harmless. OK, I won't worry about it. I did check the list on sources.zabbadoz.net and didn't see any for nfs & devfs or nfs & syncer, so I just wanted to be sure. :) Thanks! __

Re: Lock Order Reversal in nmount/unmount of devfs on NFS

2010-10-22 Thread Doug Barton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 10/22/2010 11:47 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote: | The LORs are believed to be harmless. IMO the problem with that line of reasoning is that while any individual LOR may be harmless there are so many harmless ones that it leads to people either ignor