Re: continuous backup solution for FreeBSD

2008-10-11 Thread Danny Braniss
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:42:49 -0700 > Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:29:52AM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:41:11 -0700 > > > Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 03:53:38PM +0300, Evr

Re: continuous backup solution for FreeBSD

2008-10-11 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 01:07:44PM +0200, Danny Braniss wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:35:16PM +0200, Danny Braniss wrote: > > > > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:42:49 -0700 > > > > Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:29:52AM -0400, Mike Meyer wro

Re: VirtualBox looks for FreeBSD developer

2008-10-11 Thread Edwin Groothuis
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 09:42:04PM +0400, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > Little time ago I was misleaded by the certain people and got an > idea that VirtualBox actually works on FreeBSD, so I've made a draft > port for it. It doesn't actually work, but since I've spent several > hours hacking it and ma

Re: continuous backup solution for FreeBSD

2008-10-11 Thread Doug Rabson
On 11 Oct 2008, at 12:07, Danny Braniss wrote: On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:35:16PM +0200, Danny Braniss wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:42:49 -0700 Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:29:52AM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:41:11 -0700 Jeremy C

Re: continuous backup solution for FreeBSD

2008-10-11 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> boot2/loader does not speak ZFS -- this is why you need the /boot UFS2 :> partition. This is an annoyance. :> :> For the final "stage/step", vfs.root.mountfrom="zfs:mypool/root" in :> loader.conf will cause FreeBSD to mount the root filesystem from ZFS. :> This works fine. : :so the answer is

Re: continuous backup solution for FreeBSD

2008-10-11 Thread Danny Braniss
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:35:16PM +0200, Danny Braniss wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:42:49 -0700 > > > Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:29:52AM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:41:11 -0700 > > > > > Jeremy Chadwic

Re: continuous backup solution for FreeBSD

2008-10-11 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:35:16PM +0200, Danny Braniss wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:42:49 -0700 > > Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:29:52AM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:41:11 -0700 > > > > Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROT

ZFS boot

2008-10-11 Thread Danny Braniss
> > > > so can Freebsd boot off a ZFS root? in stable? current? ... > > > > > > boot0 doesn't apply here; it cares about what's at sector 0 on the > > > disk, not filesystems. > > > > > > boot2/loader does not speak ZFS -- this is why you need the /boot UFS2 > > > partition. This is an annoyanc

Re: ZFS boot

2008-10-11 Thread Matthew Dillon
:To Matt: : since 'small' nowadays is big enough to hold /, what advantages are there :in having root split up? :also, having this split personality, what if the disk goes? the hammer/zfs :is probably raided ... You mean /boot + root , or do you mean /root vs /usr vs /home? I'll an

Re: ZFS boot

2008-10-11 Thread Freddie Cash
On 10/11/08, Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With regards to the traditional BSD partitioning scheme, having a > separate /usr, /home, /tmp, etc... there's no reason to do that stuff > any more with ZFS (or HAMMER). As separate partitions, no. As separate filesystems, defi

Re: ZFS boot

2008-10-11 Thread Nate Eldredge
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008, Freddie Cash wrote: On 10/11/08, Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: With regards to the traditional BSD partitioning scheme, having a separate /usr, /home, /tmp, etc... there's no reason to do that stuff any more with ZFS (or HAMMER). As separate partit

Re: ZFS boot

2008-10-11 Thread Freddie Cash
On 10/11/08, Danny Braniss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I'm asking, because I want to deploy some zfs fileservers soon, and so >> > far the solution is either PXE boot, or keep one disk UFS (or boot off a >> > USB) For the servers we're deploying FreeBSD+ZFS on, mainly large backup systems with

Re: ZFS boot

2008-10-11 Thread Xin LI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Matt, Matthew Dillon wrote: [...] > /boot can be as complex as boot2 allows. There's nothing preventing > it from being RAIDed if boot2 supported that, and there's nothing > preventing it (once you had ZFS boot capabilities) from bein

Re: ZFS boot

2008-10-11 Thread Pegasus Mc Cleaft
On Saturday 11 October 2008 21:53:35 Nate Eldredge wrote: > On Sat, 11 Oct 2008, Freddie Cash wrote: > > On 10/11/08, Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> With regards to the traditional BSD partitioning scheme, having a > >> separate /usr, /home, /tmp, etc... there's no reason to

Re: ZFS boot

2008-10-11 Thread Nate Eldredge
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008, Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote: FWIW, my system is amd64 with 1 G of memory, which the page implies is insufficient. Is it really? This may be purely subjective, as I have never bench marked the speeds, but when I was first testing zfs on a i386 machine with 1gig ram, I

Re: TIME WARP! Re: HEADS UP: GCC 4.2.0 is coming

2008-10-11 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:36 AM, Peter Wemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:57 AM, O. Hartmann > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Alexander Kabaev wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 19:20:07 -0400 >>> Alexander Kabaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> HEADS UP: I will start imp

Is it possible to recover from SEGV?

2008-10-11 Thread Yuri
Let's say I have signal(3) handler set. And I know exactly what instruction caused SEGV and why. Is there a way to access from signal handler CPU registers as they were before signal, modify some of them, clear the signal and continue from the instruction that caused SEGV initially? I see that i

Re: Is it possible to recover from SEGV?

2008-10-11 Thread Nate Eldredge
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008, Yuri wrote: Let's say I have signal(3) handler set. And I know exactly what instruction caused SEGV and why. Is there a way to access from signal handler CPU registers as they were before signal, modify some of them, clear the signal and continue from the instruction that c

Re: continuous backup solution for FreeBSD

2008-10-11 Thread Mike Meyer
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:24:31 -0700 Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm asking, because I want to deploy some zfs fileservers soon, and so > > far the solution is either PXE boot, or keep one disk UFS (or boot off a > > USB) > > Today's /(root+usr) is somewhere between .5 to 1Gb(kern

Re: ZFS boot

2008-10-11 Thread Mike Meyer
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:37:10 + "Freddie Cash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Most linux dists don't bother with multiple partitions any more. > > They just have '/' and maybe a small boot partition, and that's it. > > Heh, that's more proof of the difficulties inherent with old-school