Re: FreeBSD for ARM processor

2001-07-25 Thread Terry Lambert
Dave Feustel wrote: > > Strongarm-based pcs designed by Chalice Technologies http://www.chaltech.com > are available from Simtek http://www.simtec.co.uk/ No pricing anywhere that I could find. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the bo

Re: Fwd: Sun Grid Engine 5.2.3 Available. Now Open Source

2001-07-25 Thread Terry Lambert
Ron Chen wrote: > > Sun Grid Engine goes opensource. See SGE home page: > > http://www.sun.com/gridware I see no source code there, only Solaris and Linux binaries. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: exec() doesn't update access time

2001-07-25 Thread Terry Lambert
"David E. Cross" wrote: > I noticed that exec(2) does not update the last access time of a file... > is this intentional? POSIX only mandates updates of time fields in very specific cirumstances: when using particular API's. So if you use a different or unexpected API, an update is not required.

Re: Fwd: Sun Grid Engine 5.2.3 Available. Now Open Source

2001-07-25 Thread Paul Marquis
On Wednesday 25 July 2001 03:29, Terry Lambert wrote: > Ron Chen wrote: > > Sun Grid Engine goes opensource. See SGE home page: > > > > http://www.sun.com/gridware > > I see no source code there, only Solaris and Linux binaries. Check out (though the site(s) currently appear down): http://www

Re: MPP and new processor designs.

2001-07-25 Thread Christopher R. Bowman
"Leo Bicknell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" wrote: > > A number of new chips have been released lately, along with some > enhancements to existing processors that all fall into the same > logic of parallelizing some operations. Why, just today I ran > across an article about http://www.theregister.co.uk/c

Re: FreeBSD for ARM processor

2001-07-25 Thread Chris Gilbert
On Wednesday 25 July 2001 8:26 am, Terry Lambert wrote: > Dave Feustel wrote: > > Strongarm-based pcs designed by Chalice Technologies > > http://www.chaltech.com are available from Simtek > > http://www.simtec.co.uk/ > > No pricing anywhere that I could find. I believe that they cost about 700

Re: Fwd: Sun Grid Engine 5.2.3 Available. Now Open Source

2001-07-25 Thread Jim Bryant
Terry Lambert wrote: > > Ron Chen wrote: > > > > Sun Grid Engine goes opensource. See SGE home page: > > > > http://www.sun.com/gridware > > I see no source code there, only Solaris and Linux binaries. I coulda sworn I saw that they had source code available for grid engine as well, as this we

Re: Fwd: Sun Grid Engine 5.2.3 Available. Now Open Source

2001-07-25 Thread Christoph Sold
[Extensive cross-posting adress list dropped.] Jim Bryant wrote: > > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > Ron Chen wrote: > > > > > > Sun Grid Engine goes opensource. See SGE home page: > > > > > > http://www.sun.com/gridware > > > > I see no source code there, only Solaris and Linux binaries. > > I co

Re: Fwd: Sun Grid Engine 5.2.3 Available. Now Open Source

2001-07-25 Thread Jim Bryant
Christoph Sold wrote: > > [Extensive cross-posting adress list dropped.] > > Jim Bryant wrote: > > > > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > > > Ron Chen wrote: > > > > > > > > Sun Grid Engine goes opensource. See SGE home page: > > > > > > > > http://www.sun.com/gridware > > > > > > I see no source code

Re: Fwd: Sun Grid Engine 5.2.3 Available. Now Open Source

2001-07-25 Thread Jim Bryant
Jim Bryant wrote: > > Christoph Sold wrote: > > > > [Extensive cross-posting adress list dropped.] > > > > Jim Bryant wrote: > > > > > > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > > > > > Ron Chen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sun Grid Engine goes opensource. See SGE home page: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sun.

Re: Fwd: Sun Grid Engine 5.2.3 Available. Now Open Source

2001-07-25 Thread Jim Bryant
Ron Chen wrote: > > Sun Grid Engine goes opensource. See SGE home page: > > http://www.sun.com/gridware > > -Ron http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2001-07/sunflash.20010723.1.html SUN MICROSYSTEMS MAKES SUN[tm] GRID ENGINE SOFTWARE AVAILABLE TO OPEN SOURCE COMMUNITY Sun Works with Collab

Re: Fwd: Sun Grid Engine 5.2.3 Available. Now Open Source

2001-07-25 Thread Tony Maher
Sorry originally sent this to stable by mistake. Terry Lambert wrote: > > Ron Chen wrote: > > > > Sun Grid Engine goes opensource. See SGE home page: > > > > http://www.sun.com/gridware > > I see no source code there, only Solaris and Linux binaries. Click thru the licence agreement and at the

Downloads appear broked...but work...keep hitting "reload"...

2001-07-25 Thread Jim Bryant
Jim Bryant wrote: > > Ron Chen wrote: > > > > Sun Grid Engine goes opensource. See SGE home page: > > > > http://www.sun.com/gridware > > > > -Ron > > http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2001-07/sunflash.20010723.1.html > > SUN MICROSYSTEMS MAKES SUN[tm] GRID ENGINE SOFTWARE AVAILABLE TO OPEN

Re: libc.a(err.o)

2001-07-25 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 01:21:18AM -0500, Hal Snyder wrote: > I am wondering if there is a problem with err, warn, etc. in libc. [snip] > Bug? Feature? > Do we want separate modules? Weak symbols? Yes, it is a bug. IMHO we should be using weak symbols for all globally visibile identifiers

Re: FreeBSD for ARM processor

2001-07-25 Thread Dave Feustel
The fast cheap way to get going with this product is to buy a complete strongarm pc from Simtek. The slow cheap way is to just buy the motherboard and buy the rest of the components in the US. I took the slow cheap way. I can't remember any more what I paid for the motherboard. - Original Mes

Re: Fwd: Sun Grid Engine 5.2.3 Available. Now Open Source

2001-07-25 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, At 21:24 25/07/01 +1000, Tony Maher wrote: >Sorry originally sent this to stable by mistake. And -cluster should be getting this thread. >Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > Ron Chen wrote: > > > > > > Sun Grid Engine goes opensource. See SGE home page: > > > > > > http://www.sun.com/gridware > >

Re: FreeBSD for ARM processor

2001-07-25 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
David O'Brien([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.07.24 19:59:41 +: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 11:49:16AM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote: > > Strongarm-based pcs designed by Chalice Technologies http://www.chaltech.com > > are available from Simtek http://www.simtec.co.uk/ > > This brings up the issue of refe

Why install -C include files?

2001-07-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Hi folks, Why are include files installed using -C instead of -c? This makes it harder to find stale includes. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Why install -C include files?

2001-07-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:06:22 +0100, David Malone wrote: > If you changed the date on header files which hadn't changed then > next time you typed make on a project with carfully set up dependencies > everything would end up getting recompiled. That's certainly something one could argue as a pr

Re: Why install -C include files?

2001-07-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:17:05 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > In that case, I'd really like to make this behaviour in the build > optional so that it's easy for FreeBSD developers to easily identify > stale includes. > > Perhaps I could replace all instances of the -C option to install(8) > with

Re: Why install -C include files?

2001-07-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:18:56 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > Hell, we already have COPY, we're just not using it. I'll submit > patches for review to the appropriate lists. Hmmm. After a little more investigation, it seems I just need CLOBBER support, which was removed from Makefile.inc1 in re

Re: Why install -C include files?

2001-07-25 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sheldon Hearn writes: : : : On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:48:36 CST, Warner Losh wrote: : : > : Why are include files installed using -C instead of -c? This makes it : > : harder to find stale includes. : > : > I've wanted to have a /etc/mtree/bsd.obsolete for a long t

Re: Why install -C include files?

2001-07-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:58:02 CST, Warner Losh wrote: > The reason I'd like to see it isn't so that make world kills things > automatically, but so that I could kill them (or at least find out > what should be killed) on systems that had FreeBSD 1.0 installed on > them, then upgraded, disk clone

Re: Why install -C include files?

2001-07-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:48:36 CST, Warner Losh wrote: > : Why are include files installed using -C instead of -c? This makes it > : harder to find stale includes. > > I've wanted to have a /etc/mtree/bsd.obsolete for a long time now... That would make me too nervous. All I really want is the

Re: Why install -C include files?

2001-07-25 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sheldon Hearn writes: : Why are include files installed using -C instead of -c? This makes it : harder to find stale includes. I've wanted to have a /etc/mtree/bsd.obsolete for a long time now... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubsc

Re: Fwd: Sun Grid Engine 5.2.3 Available. Now Open Source

2001-07-25 Thread Ron Chen
See project homepage: http://gridengine.sunsource.net/ -Ron --- Jim Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > Ron Chen wrote: > > > > > > Sun Grid Engine goes opensource. See SGE home > page: > > > > > > http://www.sun.com/gridware > > > > I see no source code there, onl

Re: Why install -C include files?

2001-07-25 Thread David Malone
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 03:43:35PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > Why are include files installed using -C instead of -c? This makes it > harder to find stale includes. If you changed the date on header files which hadn't changed then next time you typed make on a project with carfully set up dep

Re: exec() doesn't update access time

2001-07-25 Thread David Greenman
>I noticed that exec(2) does not update the last access time of a file... >is this intentional? Not exactly intentional (I never had that as a goal when I wrote execve()), but it's a side-effect of exec not doing a 'read' on the file in the traditional sense. This has been discussed several ti

Re: cluster size

2001-07-25 Thread Zhihui Zhang
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Terry Lambert wrote: > Zhihui Zhang wrote: > > > Hi, > > > in freebsd can we change the cluster size from 2048 > > > bytes.If yes how can we do that? > > > do we have to configure in some file? > > > > You must be asking why the mbuf cluster size is chosen as 2048, right?

Re: cluster size

2001-07-25 Thread Bosko Milekic
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 01:51:51PM -0400, Zhihui Zhang wrote: > > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Zhihui Zhang wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > in freebsd can we change the cluster size from 2048 > > > > bytes.If yes how can we do that? > > > > do we have to configure in some file?

Re: cluster size

2001-07-25 Thread Julian Elischer
Basically you want it to hold a number of mbufs and you want it to fit into a page nicely. you probably want it to have a bit of extra rume for oversized packets too. 2K seems a good fit. nothing magic about it however. (should be less than a page, bigget than an ehternet packet(plus a bit) 4096

Re: cluster size

2001-07-25 Thread Zhihui Zhang
I see. It has something to do with the power-of-two allocator we are using inside the kernel. -Zhihui On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Bosko Milekic wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 01:51:51PM -0400, Zhihui Zhang wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > > Zhihui Zhang wr

Re: cluster size

2001-07-25 Thread Bosko Milekic
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 02:17:38PM -0400, Zhihui Zhang wrote: > > I see. It has something to do with the power-of-two allocator we are > using inside the kernel. No, it has nothing to do with the power-of-two allocation strategy used in some cases inside the kernel. 2K is just the most

Re: cluster size

2001-07-25 Thread Julian Elischer
no.. it has to do with the fact that it would be unwise to make a cluster > 1 page size since we have no guarantee that all drivers could handle breaking up a DMA if a cluster spanned 2 physical address ranges. (they can handle a chain of discontinuous mbufs but may assume that a single mbuf will

Re: exec() doesn't update access time

2001-07-25 Thread David E. Cross
In my case it would be usefull as I was trying to tell the last time 'telnetd' was run. (yes, not perfect, but better than nothing) -- David Cross | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lab Director | Rm: 308 Lally Hall Rensselaer Polytechnic Instit

Re: exec() doesn't update access time

2001-07-25 Thread Ronald G Minnich
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, David E. Cross wrote: > In my case it would be usefull as I was trying to tell the last time > 'telnetd' was run. (yes, not perfect, but better than nothing) well, for caching file systems it is very useful to have an exec set atime. Helps you figure out which files can be p

Re: exec() doesn't update access time

2001-07-25 Thread David E. Cross
Hmm... would it be as easy as VOP_GETATTR(); . . . VOP_SETATTR(); within the exec() code? Certainly this would be an 'easy' fix (and I can work up diffs for review), but is it the 'correct' fix? -- David Cross | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lab Director

Re: exec() doesn't update access time

2001-07-25 Thread David Greenman
>Hmm... would it be as easy as >VOP_GETATTR(); >. >. >. >VOP_SETATTR(); > >within the exec() code? > >Certainly this would be an 'easy' fix (and I can work up diffs for review), >but is it the 'correct' fix? No, it's not the correct fix. You shouldn't need to do the GETATTR first, and doing a

Re: exec() doesn't update access time

2001-07-25 Thread David Greenman
>>Hmm... would it be as easy as >>VOP_GETATTR(); >>. >>. >>. >>VOP_SETATTR(); >> >>within the exec() code? >> >>Certainly this would be an 'easy' fix (and I can work up diffs for review), >>but is it the 'correct' fix? > > No, it's not the correct fix. You shouldn't need to do the GETATTR first,

Re: Invoking a userland function from kernel

2001-07-25 Thread Weiguang SHI
>From: Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Invoking a userland function from kernel >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:16:33 -0700 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I need pass asynchronously dat

Re: Why install -C include files?

2001-07-25 Thread Brian Dean
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 05:06:44PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:58:02 CST, Warner Losh wrote: > > > The reason I'd like to see it isn't so that make world kills things > > automatically, but so that I could kill them (or at least find out > > what should be killed) on sys

hooks

2001-07-25 Thread Evan Sarmiento
Hello, I need each system call to check with a master table of restrictions before executing a function. Is there a way to do this without copying and pasting a bit of code that does this checking into every system call? Thanks, -- --- Evan Sarmiento | www.op

Re: hooks

2001-07-25 Thread Weiguang SHI
Architecture dependent. For the 4.3-stable code for i386, /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c contains the function syscall2(). I believe you can safely put your code in it before the dispatching system call part, just be aware of kernel stack overflow. Weiguang >From: Evan Sarmiento <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Why install -C include files?

2001-07-25 Thread Brian Somers
> > > On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:58:02 CST, Warner Losh wrote: > > > The reason I'd like to see it isn't so that make world kills things > > automatically, but so that I could kill them (or at least find out > > what should be killed) on systems that had FreeBSD 1.0 installed on > > them, then upgr

ARP cache problems....

2001-07-25 Thread Soren Kristensen
Hi, I'm trying to do some testing on my boxes with 3 ethernet interface. But it seems like that FreeBSD gets very confused. Can somebody please tell me what's going and, and preferable, help me out ? I basically want to connect those 3 interface to the same hub, and then use them all from one wi

qestion about vm page coloring

2001-07-25 Thread Rex Luo
Dear all, I study FreeBSD vm managememnt recently, however, I am a little confused with vm_page's page color. when you call vm_add_new_page() in vm_startup(), you will set each map entry's page color according to its physical addr. m->pc = (pa >> PAGE_SHIFT)&PQ_L2_MASK; However, I found

Re: SmartDisk USB CompactFlash reader

2001-07-25 Thread Wes Peters
Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > * Leif Neland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010724 19:18] wrote: > > I've got such a device; it was nessecary, because my camera run out of > > batteries before I could retrieve 48MB of pictures over the normal serial > > port > > > > > > When I plug it in it displays: > > ugen

Re: qestion about vm page coloring

2001-07-25 Thread Matt Dillon
:Dear all, : : I study FreeBSD vm managememnt recently, however, I am a little confused :with vm_page's page color. when you call vm_add_new_page() in vm_startup(), :you will set each map entry's page color according to its physical addr. : : m->pc = (pa >> PAGE_SHIFT)&PQ_L2_MASK; : :Howeve