Re: No elf(5) man page (docs/7914)

1999-08-01 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
* Wes Peters (w...@softweyr.com) [990801 07:12]: > Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > > > * Nik Clayton (n...@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) [990730 23:37]: > > > > > > We have an a.out(5), but no elf(5) (as pointed out in docs/7914). > > > > > > Does anyone feel up to writing one? > > > > Saw it b

Re: Hey kernel hackers, this is worth a read.

1999-08-01 Thread Jan B. Koum
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:58:09PM -0700, "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > http://features.linuxtoday.com/stories/8191.html > > A story on upcoming plans for the Linux 2.4 kernel. Since they're > going after a lot of the same performance goals we are, it's worth a > read. > > - Jordan > > > To U

Re: Solution for mail pseudo-users?

1999-08-01 Thread Mike Hoskins
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote: > The easiest way I can think of would be to add them to /etc/passwd and set > their shell and home dir to /nonexistant. Ideally you wouldn't be running > any other daemons, so there'd be no real way for them to access files; but > the stock ftpd, as well as

Re: Solution for mail pseudo-users?

1999-08-01 Thread Leif Neland
> Then again, SQL seems to be the current buzz... Having SQL-based access > is cool/manageable (a friend generates the MySQL db from his Radius users > file). > And we do it the other way: Generate the users file from mysql. I rather prefer it like that; then I can still auth users, if mysql goes

Re: Solution for mail pseudo-users?

1999-08-01 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Mike Hoskins wrote: > As usual, there's more than one way to skin a cat. And as always a bloodless vegetarian way too :) I just don't see any justification in hacking away at all of your software to bypass the passwd database. What is gained? - alex You better believe that

Re: So, back on the topic of enabling bpf in GENERIC...

1999-08-01 Thread Sergey Babkin
Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <37a3b701.851df...@softweyr.com> Wes Peters writes: > : Do we have a list of all services that use bpf? I'm willing to edit the man > : pages, given a list. I guess I could just grep-o-matic here, huh? > > Yes. I'm also in a holding off pattern until we know t

Re: No elf(5) man page (docs/7914)

1999-08-01 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:46:26 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > > If no-one objects I'll submit a manpage per a.out(5) style tomorrow > > for review untill it's ready for inclusion. > > Anyone who objects to your submissions is a woes -- real bastards wait > for yo

Re: Documenting writev(2) ENOBUFS error

1999-08-01 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
> > > :> [ENOBUFS] Insufficient system buffer space exists to complete > > > the op- > > > :>eration. > > > : > > > :Do you know what kind of circumstances that error *really* occurs > > > :under? > > > > So you can get ENOBUFS not related to mbufs for UDP/local data

Re: Hey kernel hackers, this is worth a read.

1999-08-01 Thread Doug
"Jan B. Koum" wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:58:09PM -0700, "Jordan K. Hubbard" > wrote: > > http://features.linuxtoday.com/stories/8191.html > >From the article: > > "Linux 2.4 also includes a completely rewritten networking layer." > > Great. After a few years from now when they get

Re: Solution for mail pseudo-users?

1999-08-01 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 02:43:28AM -0700, Mike Hoskins wrote: > I like the 'keeping it real' idea as well. > > Then again, doesn't 3.2R+ support SecureRPC? Isn't this the sort of thing > NIS+ was invented for? A centralized db of users that you can then export > to various machines with differin

Re: Hey kernel hackers, this is worth a read.

1999-08-01 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Doug wrote: > "Jan B. Koum" wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:58:09PM -0700, "Jordan K. Hubbard" > > wrote: > > > http://features.linuxtoday.com/stories/8191.html > > > >From the article: > > > > "Linux 2.4 also includes a completely rewritten networking layer." >

Re: DOC volunteer WAS:RE: userfs help needed.

1999-08-01 Thread Brian F. Feldman
Judging by your description, why don't we use LyX? :) LaTeX sounds about right. Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ gr...@freebsd.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!_ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://www.FreeBSD.org/

Proposing argv for klds and preloaded modules

1999-08-01 Thread Juha Nurmela
Hello. Sometimes it would be handy to pass a commandline to a kld, preloaded modules already support arguments. kldload(2) unfortunately has only the pathname.ko argument. Following url proposes patches to make a new syscall kldload(char *pathname, char **argv, struct kldload *) and keep old way

Re: Documenting writev(2) ENOBUFS error

1999-08-01 Thread Nik Clayton
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 06:50:09PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > So, do you want to enumerate the cases in which this error can occur in the > man page? This is not generally done, now that we have verified it is > possible for the system to generate ENOBUFS on a writev. I think the text > stands as

Re: Proposing argv for klds and preloaded modules

1999-08-01 Thread Chris Costello
On Sun, Aug 01, 1999, Juha Nurmela wrote: > > Hello. > > Sometimes it would be handy to pass a commandline > to a kld, preloaded modules already support > arguments. kldload(2) unfortunately has only > the pathname.ko argument. Is this really a problem? Can the administrator not use sysctl i

Re: Proposing argv for klds and preloaded modules

1999-08-01 Thread Juha Nurmela
On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > On Sun, Aug 01, 1999, Juha Nurmela wrote: > > Sometimes it would be handy to pass a commandline > > to a kld, preloaded modules already support > > arguments. kldload(2) unfortunately has only > > the pathname.ko argument. > >Is this really a prob

Re: no elf(5) man page (docs/7914)

1999-08-01 Thread Andy Doran
Wes Peters writes: > NetBSD doesn't have one as of 1.4, so they may be interested in yours. ;^) It'd be cool if Asmodai could bounce this around one of the NetBSD lists once it's near completion. tech-toolchain@ or tech-userlevel@ would be the right place I guess. - ad To Unsubscribe: send ma

Re: Was someone looking for a BSD licensed stat(1)?

1999-08-01 Thread Keith Stevenson
I've put a new version of stat(1) up for review. I've incorporated a few of the features that were requested. I honestly haven't figured out how to implement the display of selected fields yet. I realize that this isn't a huge step forward over the previous revision, but my hacking hours are lim

Re: Was someone looking for a BSD licensed stat(1)?

1999-08-01 Thread Brian F. Feldman
It's getting better. I don't like that switch (errno) at all. But work on it some more, make it feature-complete., and I'd love to be able to import it. Also, there's a bug: access: Sun Aug 1 13:46:49 1999 Access: Sun Aug 1 00:09:26 1999 Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ __

Re: Was someone looking for a BSD licensed stat(1)?

1999-08-01 Thread Jamie Howard
On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Keith Stevenson wrote: > the features that were requested. I honestly haven't figured out how to > implement the display of selected fields yet. I realize that this isn't a Attached is a diff that takes care of that. Basically, the user can specify a format that looks like

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-08-01 Thread Warner Losh
In message <19990731161854.11...@hydrogen.fircrest.net> John-Mark Gurney writes: : I vote for allowing inetd.conf to specify a port number instead of a : service name... it should be very easy to make the modification, and : I'm willing to do all the work, assuming no one on -committers objects..

Re: Proposing argv for klds and preloaded modules

1999-08-01 Thread Warner Losh
In message Juha Nurmela writes: : Yes, but (this might be a trademark ;) commonly the arguments would : be used during the sysinit->attach, and at that time sysctl has not yet : been able to change anything. Use of sysctl would require a sidestep : from attach and later continuation with a sysctl

Re: no elf(5) man page (docs/7914)

1999-08-01 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
* Andy Doran (a...@netbsd.org) [990802 00:53]: > Wes Peters writes: > > > NetBSD doesn't have one as of 1.4, so they may be interested in yours. ;^) > > It'd be cool if Asmodai could bounce this around one of the NetBSD lists > once it's near completion. tech-toolchain@ or tech-userlevel@ would b

How the `struct linker_set' is used in building an ELF kernel?

1999-08-01 Thread Joe Jih-Shien Lu
Hi everybody, I started studying 3.2-stable kernel source for days. There are some questions I cannot figure out in an ordinary C programmer's point of view: * In cninit(), it references a global variable `cons_set' of the type `struct linker_set,' but I don't see its definition

Re: No elf(5) man page (docs/7914)

1999-08-01 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
* Wes Peters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990801 07:12]: > Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > > > * Nik Clayton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990730 23:37]: > > > > > > We have an a.out(5), but no elf(5) (as pointed out in docs/7914). > > > > > > Does anyone feel up to writing one? > > > > Saw it before, noticed

Re: Hey kernel hackers, this is worth a read.

1999-08-01 Thread Jan B. Koum
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:58:09PM -0700, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://features.linuxtoday.com/stories/8191.html > > A story on upcoming plans for the Linux 2.4 kernel. Since they're > going after a lot of the same performance goals we are, it's worth a > read. > > -

Re: Solution for mail pseudo-users?

1999-08-01 Thread Mike Hoskins
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote: > The easiest way I can think of would be to add them to /etc/passwd and set > their shell and home dir to /nonexistant. Ideally you wouldn't be running > any other daemons, so there'd be no real way for them to access files; but > the stock ftpd, as well a

Re: Solution for mail pseudo-users?

1999-08-01 Thread Leif Neland
> Then again, SQL seems to be the current buzz... Having SQL-based access > is cool/manageable (a friend generates the MySQL db from his Radius users > file). > And we do it the other way: Generate the users file from mysql. I rather prefer it like that; then I can still auth users, if mysql goe

Re: Solution for mail pseudo-users?

1999-08-01 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Mike Hoskins wrote: > As usual, there's more than one way to skin a cat. And as always a bloodless vegetarian way too :) I just don't see any justification in hacking away at all of your software to bypass the passwd database. What is gained? - alex You better believe tha

Re: So, back on the topic of enabling bpf in GENERIC...

1999-08-01 Thread Sergey Babkin
Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wes Peters writes: > : Do we have a list of all services that use bpf? I'm willing to edit the man > : pages, given a list. I guess I could just grep-o-matic here, huh? > > Yes. I'm also in a holding off pattern until we know the exact imp

Re: No elf(5) man page (docs/7914)

1999-08-01 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:46:26 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > > If no-one objects I'll submit a manpage per a.out(5) style tomorrow > > for review untill it's ready for inclusion. > > Anyone who objects to your submissions is a woes -- real bastards wait > for y

Re: Documenting writev(2) ENOBUFS error

1999-08-01 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
> > > :> [ENOBUFS] Insufficient system buffer space exists to complete the op- > > > :>eration. > > > : > > > :Do you know what kind of circumstances that error *really* occurs > > > :under? > > > > So you can get ENOBUFS not related to mbufs for UDP/local datagram >

Re: Hey kernel hackers, this is worth a read.

1999-08-01 Thread Doug
"Jan B. Koum" wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:58:09PM -0700, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > http://features.linuxtoday.com/stories/8191.html > >From the article: > > "Linux 2.4 also includes a completely rewritten networking layer." > > Great. After a few years from

Re: Solution for mail pseudo-users?

1999-08-01 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 02:43:28AM -0700, Mike Hoskins wrote: > I like the 'keeping it real' idea as well. > > Then again, doesn't 3.2R+ support SecureRPC? Isn't this the sort of thing > NIS+ was invented for? A centralized db of users that you can then export > to various machines with differi

Re: Hey kernel hackers, this is worth a read.

1999-08-01 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Doug wrote: > "Jan B. Koum" wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:58:09PM -0700, "Jordan K. Hubbard" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://features.linuxtoday.com/stories/8191.html > > > >From the article: > > > > "Linux 2.4 also includes a completely rewritten netw

Re: DOC volunteer WAS:RE: userfs help needed.

1999-08-01 Thread Brian F. Feldman
Judging by your description, why don't we use LyX? :) LaTeX sounds about right. Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!_ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://www.FreeBSD.org/

Proposing argv for klds and preloaded modules

1999-08-01 Thread Juha Nurmela
Hello. Sometimes it would be handy to pass a commandline to a kld, preloaded modules already support arguments. kldload(2) unfortunately has only the pathname.ko argument. Following url proposes patches to make a new syscall kldload(char *pathname, char **argv, struct kldload *) and keep old wa

Re: Documenting writev(2) ENOBUFS error

1999-08-01 Thread Nik Clayton
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 06:50:09PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > So, do you want to enumerate the cases in which this error can occur in the > man page? This is not generally done, now that we have verified it is > possible for the system to generate ENOBUFS on a writev. I think the text > stands a

Re: Proposing argv for klds and preloaded modules

1999-08-01 Thread Chris Costello
On Sun, Aug 01, 1999, Juha Nurmela wrote: > > Hello. > > Sometimes it would be handy to pass a commandline > to a kld, preloaded modules already support > arguments. kldload(2) unfortunately has only > the pathname.ko argument. Is this really a problem? Can the administrator not use sysctl

Re: Proposing argv for klds and preloaded modules

1999-08-01 Thread Juha Nurmela
On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > On Sun, Aug 01, 1999, Juha Nurmela wrote: > > Sometimes it would be handy to pass a commandline > > to a kld, preloaded modules already support > > arguments. kldload(2) unfortunately has only > > the pathname.ko argument. > >Is this really a pro

Re: no elf(5) man page (docs/7914)

1999-08-01 Thread Andy Doran
Wes Peters writes: > NetBSD doesn't have one as of 1.4, so they may be interested in yours. ;^) It'd be cool if Asmodai could bounce this around one of the NetBSD lists once it's near completion. tech-toolchain@ or tech-userlevel@ would be the right place I guess. - ad To Unsubscribe: send m

Re: Was someone looking for a BSD licensed stat(1)?

1999-08-01 Thread Keith Stevenson
I've put a new version of stat(1) up for review. I've incorporated a few of the features that were requested. I honestly haven't figured out how to implement the display of selected fields yet. I realize that this isn't a huge step forward over the previous revision, but my hacking hours are li

Re: Was someone looking for a BSD licensed stat(1)?

1999-08-01 Thread Brian F. Feldman
It's getting better. I don't like that switch (errno) at all. But work on it some more, make it feature-complete., and I'd love to be able to import it. Also, there's a bug: access: Sun Aug 1 13:46:49 1999 Access: Sun Aug 1 00:09:26 1999 Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ _

Re: Was someone looking for a BSD licensed stat(1)?

1999-08-01 Thread Jamie Howard
On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Keith Stevenson wrote: > the features that were requested. I honestly haven't figured out how to > implement the display of selected fields yet. I realize that this isn't a Attached is a diff that takes care of that. Basically, the user can specify a format that looks like

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-08-01 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John-Mark Gurney writes: : I vote for allowing inetd.conf to specify a port number instead of a : service name... it should be very easy to make the modification, and : I'm willing to do all the work, assuming no one on -committers objects.. I'd love to be able to

Re: Proposing argv for klds and preloaded modules

1999-08-01 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Juha Nurmela writes: : Yes, but (this might be a trademark ;) commonly the arguments would : be used during the sysinit->attach, and at that time sysctl has not yet : been able to change anything. Use of sysctl would require a sidestep : from attach and later contin

Re: no elf(5) man page (docs/7914)

1999-08-01 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
* Andy Doran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990802 00:53]: > Wes Peters writes: > > > NetBSD doesn't have one as of 1.4, so they may be interested in yours. ;^) > > It'd be cool if Asmodai could bounce this around one of the NetBSD lists > once it's near completion. tech-toolchain@ or tech-userlevel@ woul

How the `struct linker_set' is used in building an ELF kernel?

1999-08-01 Thread Joe Jih-Shien Lu
Hi everybody, I started studying 3.2-stable kernel source for days. There are some questions I cannot figure out in an ordinary C programmer's point of view: * In cninit(), it references a global variable `cons_set' of the type `struct linker_set,' but I don't see its definitio

Re: readdirplus is very cool, any other nfs client suggestions?

1999-08-01 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DES: can you elaborate? you think it may cause problems with amd > since it's like an NFS buffer isn't it and would work over the > loopback... I used loopback mounts to test NFS make worlds a while ago (there were places where make world would bom