Re: power supplies

2001-09-30 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 01-Oct-2001 Ronald G Minnich wrote: > I've seen similar stuff although have not (yet) fried a PS. I've had > chipset lockup that requred unplugging AC for 30+ seconds before it was > resolved. A simple power cycle with the power switch was not sufficient. We found this problem at work due

Re: power supplies

2001-09-30 Thread Ronald G Minnich
he same) one has helped. > Though I don't know why it happens. I've seen similar stuff although have not (yet) fried a PS. I've had chipset lockup that requred unplugging AC for 30+ seconds before it was resolved. A simple power cycle with the power switch was not sufficient. Be

Re: power supplies

2001-09-30 Thread babkin
Dan wrote: > > I had the stangest situation today where a new nic card was put into a > machine and then the machine did not start up. Placed the old nic card > back in the box and it still did not start up. Switched power supplies > with an exactly equal box and both machine

Re: power supplies

2001-09-28 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
quot; "did it stink?" "does it still stink, even if it's turned off?" q3 if answered with yes means that the electret condenser are gone. had this with a whole series of korean 300va atx power supplies. you don't happen to have those nice nvidia or voodoo agp4x cards

Re: power supplies

2001-09-28 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 08:38:20AM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Jim Bryant wrote: > > Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > There are problems with PSes when you use NICs with wake up > > > capability. The NIC may exceed the capability of one of your low > > > amperage voltages. > > > > How mu

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Søren Schmidt
It seems Jim Bryant wrote: > Kent Stewart wrote: > > > There are problems with PSes when you use NICs with wake up > > capability. The NIC may exceed the capability of one of your low > > amperage voltages. > > How much current can wake-on-LAN take? I wouldn't think it would be enough to >over

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Kent Stewart
;t remember which one it is. The -12v sounds likely. It was the one in the milliamp range. The NICs came with a warning that the typical AT power supplies were insufficient. I haven't bought one in a box for quite a while and that was where I saw the warning. Kent > > jim > -- >

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Jim Bryant
Kent Stewart wrote: > There are problems with PSes when you use NICs with wake up > capability. The NIC may exceed the capability of one of your low > amperage voltages. > > Kent How much current can wake-on-LAN take? I wouldn't think it would be enough to overload a power supply unless it o

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Dan
PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: power supplies > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:04:40PM -0700, Dan wrote: > > > > ya but even putting the old nic back in the machine does not still boot > > up. I don't think this has to do with the nic but you never know. > > fxp1: >

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:04:40PM -0700, Dan wrote: > > ya but even putting the old nic back in the machine does not still boot > up. I don't think this has to do with the nic but you never know. > fxp1: You overloaded and burned out the power supply? Kris msg28792/pgp0.pgp Description

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Dan
gt; Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: power supplies > > > > Dan wrote: > > > > I had the stangest situation today where a new nic card was put into a > > machine and then the machine did not start

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Kent Stewart
Dan wrote: > > I had the stangest situation today where a new nic card was put into a > machine and then the machine did not start up. Placed the old nic card > back in the box and it still did not start up. Switched power supplies > with an exactly equal box and both machine

RE: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 28-Sep-2001 Dan wrote: > > I had the stangest situation today where a new nic card was put into a > machine and then the machine did not start up. Placed the old nic card > back in the box and it still did not start up. Switched power supplies > with an exactly equ

power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Dan
I had the stangest situation today where a new nic card was put into a machine and then the machine did not start up. Placed the old nic card back in the box and it still did not start up. Switched power supplies with an exactly equal box and both machine booted up fine. This has happened twice

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-16 Thread Takanori Watanabe
In message <19990916220426.04...@breizh.free.fr>, Nicolas Souchu wrote: >On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 10:51:13PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: >> >>Peter Wemm wrote: >>> >>>On newer motherboards, it's addressable on the SMB bus (along with >>>the SIMMS, the LM78/LM75/etc, the embedded LM75 in the newer CPU,

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-16 Thread Takanori Watanabe
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nicolas Souchu wrote: >On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 10:51:13PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: >> >>Peter Wemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>On newer motherboards, it's addressable on the SMB bus (along with >>>the SIMMS, the LM78/LM75/etc, the embedded LM75 in the newer CP

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-16 Thread Nicolas Souchu
On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 10:51:13PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: > >Peter Wemm wrote: >> >>On newer motherboards, it's addressable on the SMB bus (along with >>the SIMMS, the LM78/LM75/etc, the embedded LM75 in the newer CPU, >>etc). Anyway, the newer devices are programmable to do things like >>the 4-

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-16 Thread Nicolas Souchu
On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 10:51:13PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: > >Peter Wemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>On newer motherboards, it's addressable on the SMB bus (along with >>the SIMMS, the LM78/LM75/etc, the embedded LM75 in the newer CPU, >>etc). Anyway, the newer devices are programmable to do

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-13 Thread atrn
On 13 Sep, Doug Ambrisko wrote: > A staple bent properly and wedged in the crimp part of the pin between > the green wire to a black wire does the trick for me. When building a box of disks (no m/b) we used a paper clip. No m/b meant we could just short the pins and not worry about plugging it i

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-13 Thread atrn
On 13 Sep, Doug Ambrisko wrote: > A staple bent properly and wedged in the crimp part of the pin between > the green wire to a black wire does the trick for me. When building a box of disks (no m/b) we used a paper clip. No m/b meant we could just short the pins and not worry about plugging it in

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-13 Thread Doug Ambrisko
Just my 2 cents and a staple ... A staple bent properly and wedged in the crimp part of the pin between the green wire to a black wire does the trick for me. Now I turn that machine on via the power switch on the back of the power supply which ATX power supply people are now adding. I have a d

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-13 Thread Doug Ambrisko
Just my 2 cents and a staple ... A staple bent properly and wedged in the crimp part of the pin between the green wire to a black wire does the trick for me. Now I turn that machine on via the power switch on the back of the power supply which ATX power supply people are now adding. I have a de

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-12 Thread Tony Finch
Peter Wemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On newer motherboards, it's addressable on the SMB bus (along with >the SIMMS, the LM78/LM75/etc, the embedded LM75 in the newer CPU, >etc). Anyway, the newer devices are programmable to do things like >the 4-second power off delay, auto-on with AC, maintai

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-12 Thread Tony Finch
Peter Wemm wrote: > >On newer motherboards, it's addressable on the SMB bus (along with >the SIMMS, the LM78/LM75/etc, the embedded LM75 in the newer CPU, >etc). Anyway, the newer devices are programmable to do things like >the 4-second power off delay, auto-on with AC, maintain previous >state wh

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-12 Thread Mike Nowlin
> Yeah, you're supposed to tie PE low when you want power... However, in a > system I'm working with now, we've discovered that some inexpensive ATX > power supplies don't expect to have PE come up immediately when they're > given power. If you see the symp

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-12 Thread Mike Nowlin
> Yeah, you're supposed to tie PE low when you want power... However, in a > system I'm working with now, we've discovered that some inexpensive ATX > power supplies don't expect to have PE come up immediately when they're > given power. If you see the symp

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-11 Thread Kevin Day
round the power enable line for > 1/2 a second, you will get (at most) 1/2 a second of power. > > Sheesh. You could at least speak from _experience_ here. > Yeah, you're supposed to tie PE low when you want power... However, in a system I'm working with now, we've d

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-11 Thread Kevin Day
round the power enable line for > 1/2 a second, you will get (at most) 1/2 a second of power. > > Sheesh. You could at least speak from _experience_ here. > Yeah, you're supposed to tie PE low when you want power... However, in a system I'm working with now, we've d

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-11 Thread Mike Smith
> > > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > > > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > > > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two > > > options: > &

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-11 Thread Mike Smith
> > > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > > > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > > > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two > > > options: > &

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-11 Thread Peter Wemm
Chuck Robey wrote: > On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > > > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > > > panel ? All the mot

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-11 Thread Peter Wemm
Chuck Robey wrote: > On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > > > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > > > panel ? All the mot

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-10 Thread Chuck Robey
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two >

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-10 Thread Chuck Robey
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two >

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Kris Kirby
Andrew Reilly wrote: > I have an ATX system that must be looking for a keyboard-located > power switch of some sort. It won't power up unless I unplug the > (PS-2) keyboard, and then plug it back in again. That seems as > though there's something fairly complicated in the system that _is_ > being

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Kris Kirby
Andrew Reilly wrote: > I have an ATX system that must be looking for a keyboard-located > power switch of some sort. It won't power up unless I unplug the > (PS-2) keyboard, and then plug it back in again. That seems as > though there's something fairly complicated in the system that _is_ > bein

RE: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 09-Sep-99 Luigi Rizzo wrote: > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two > options: There are no

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Andrew Reilly wrote: > > How is it that BIOS settings can affect this? Do they fiddle > with some battery-backed switch on the motherboard? The ATX power supply has a lead or two that are always powered. This allows the machine do softpower on. It also means that the bios

RE: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 09-Sep-99 Luigi Rizzo wrote: > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two > options: There are no

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Andrew Reilly wrote: > > How is it that BIOS settings can affect this? Do they fiddle > with some battery-backed switch on the motherboard? The ATX power supply has a lead or two that are always powered. This allows the machine do softpower on. It also means that the bio

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Mike Smith
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > Disabled > > > no automatic restart on power failure > > > > You _should_ be able to change this. > > > > > none of them is satisfactory especially for picoBSD things such as > > > routers or firewalls where an U

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > Disabled > > no automatic restart on power failure > > You _should_ be able to change this. > > > none of them is satisfactory especially for picoBSD things such as > > routers or firewalls where an UPS is overkill

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Mike Smith
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > Disabled > > > no automatic restart on power failure > > > > You _should_ be able to change this. > > > > > none of them is satisfactory especially for picoBSD things such as > > > routers or firewalls where an

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > Disabled > > no automatic restart on power failure > > You _should_ be able to change this. > > > none of them is satisfactory especially for picoBSD things such as > > routers or firewalls where an UPS is overkil

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > > panel ? All the motherb

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Peter Wemm
Mike Smith wrote: > > > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two > > options: >

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > hi, > > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two >

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Mike Smith
> any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two > options: > > Disabled > no aut

damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Luigi Rizzo
hi, any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: Disabled no automatic restart on pow

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > > panel ? All the motherb

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Peter Wemm
Mike Smith wrote: > > > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two > > options: >

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > hi, > > any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two >

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Mike Smith
> any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power > outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front > panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two > options: > > Disabled > no aut

damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Luigi Rizzo
hi, any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: Disabled no automatic restart on pow

Re: ATX power supplies

1999-08-21 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > At 12:29 PM 8/21/99 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > >Anyone know where the spec might be for how ATX power supplies work > >(especially the interface to the motherboard, and their on'off methods?) > > > >Thanks. > > ft

Re: ATX power supplies

1999-08-21 Thread Kevin Day
At 12:29 PM 8/21/99 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: Anyone know where the spec might be for how ATX power supplies work (especially the interface to the motherboard, and their on'off methods?) Thanks. ftp://download.intel.com/design/motherbd/atx_201.pdf See section 4.2 Kevin To Unsubs

ATX power supplies

1999-08-21 Thread Chuck Robey
Anyone know where the spec might be for how ATX power supplies work (especially the interface to the motherboard, and their on'off methods?) Thanks. +--- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voi

Re: ATX power supplies

1999-08-21 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > At 12:29 PM 8/21/99 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > >Anyone know where the spec might be for how ATX power supplies work > >(especially the interface to the motherboard, and their on'off methods?) > > > >Thanks. > > ft

Re: ATX power supplies

1999-08-21 Thread Kevin Day
At 12:29 PM 8/21/99 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: >Anyone know where the spec might be for how ATX power supplies work >(especially the interface to the motherboard, and their on'off methods?) > >Thanks. ftp://download.intel.com/design/motherbd/atx_201.pdf See section 4.2 Kevin

ATX power supplies

1999-08-21 Thread Chuck Robey
Anyone know where the spec might be for how ATX power supplies work (especially the interface to the motherboard, and their on'off methods?) Thanks. +--- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voi