Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-24 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Matthew D. Fuller wrote: Most favourite example: I personally still get mad if it comes to the "u" undo key. I miss :N. You have to :split and then :n separately. Do you mean :sn? cheers simon -- Serve - BSD +++ RENT this banner advert +++ASCII Ribbon /"\ Work - Mac +++

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-23 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 07:03:25AM +0200 I heard the voice of Andreas Klemm, and lo! it spake thus: > > Most favourite example: > I personally still get mad if it comes to the "u" undo key. I miss :N. You have to :split and then :n separately. > Standard vi lets you toggle your last change by

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-23 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 02:08:40AM +0900, Sangwoo Shim wrote: > Actually the first thing that I do after minimal installing of new system is > to install vim from the ports tree. (in fact, installing cvsup, of course :-) > I remember once upon a time someone (david?) made a suggestion that nvi in >

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-19 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Wed, 2005-Oct-19 12:59:04 -0700, Steve Watt wrote: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >>Does it have interface to gdb? And such other things..) ... >I can't imagine why an editor should interface with gdb -- that's what >other windows are for. When stepping through code, it's nice to ha

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-19 Thread Steve Watt
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >Hello, FreeBSD people. > >First thing to mention is that I'm very experienced Emacs user. I was using it [ snip reasons for becoming a VI user ] >and according to documentation it has powerful editing mechanism. It is. >So, my question goes to all FreeBS

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-19 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 01:25:32PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > : vi was the first screen/cursor-based editor in computer > : history. > > Are you sure about this? I was using screen oriented editors

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-19 Thread Danny Braniss
> At 1:25 PM -0600 10/17/05, M. Warner Losh wrote: > >In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >:vi was the first screen/cursor-based editor in computer > >:history. > > > >Are you sure about this? I was using screen oriented editors over a >

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 1:25 PM -0600 10/17/05, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : vi was the first screen/cursor-based editor in computer : history. Are you sure about this? I was using screen oriented editors over a 1200 baud dial

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Bruce R. Montague
Hi, (wondering off on a tangent), re: > I was using screen oriented editors over a > 1200 baud dialup line in 1977 on a PDP-11 running RSTS/E on a Behive... Around this time I think full-screen editors from DEC that took advantage of the VT-52 (and later VT-100) included KED, EDT, and may

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : vi was the first screen/cursor-based editor in computer : history. Are you sure about this? I was using screen oriented editors over a 1200 baud dialup line in 1977 on a PDP-11 running RSTS/E on a Be

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Sangwoo Shim
2005/10/17, Marc Fonvieille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:46:56AM +0400, Oleg Petrov wrote: > > Hello, FreeBSD people. > > > > First thing to mention is that I'm very experienced Emacs user. I was using > > it > > for 4-5 years or so. But sometime ago i began to feel myself so

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 04:49:20PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > I'd say "s/nvi/vim" (see http://www.vim.org/) if you want to really do > everything with your Vi. > Err, sorry for the cross-post :( Marc ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:46:56AM +0400, Oleg Petrov wrote: > Hello, FreeBSD people. > > First thing to mention is that I'm very experienced Emacs user. I was using it > for 4-5 years or so. But sometime ago i began to feel myself so uncomfortable > with it for some reasons: first, i use many dif

Re: nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:46:56AM +0400, Oleg Petrov wrote: > Hello, FreeBSD people. > > First thing to mention is that I'm very experienced Emacs user. I was using it > for 4-5 years or so. But sometime ago i began to feel myself so uncomfortable > with it for some reasons: first, i use many dif

nvi for serious hacking

2005-10-17 Thread Oleg Petrov
Hello, FreeBSD people. First thing to mention is that I'm very experienced Emacs user. I was using it for 4-5 years or so. But sometime ago i began to feel myself so uncomfortable with it for some reasons: first, i use many different systems and emacs isn't default application for FreeBSD or any o