Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-26 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:11:02AM -0500, Dylan Cochran wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > I did run into problems initially because my i386 userland wasn't > > aligned with my amd64 kernel but rebuilding both fixed that (I'm > > running 8.0-RC1 and a bit). > > > > N

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-22 Thread Dylan Cochran
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > I did run into problems initially because my i386 userland wasn't > aligned with my amd64 kernel but rebuilding both fixed that (I'm > running 8.0-RC1 and a bit). > > Note that some tools that poke around in kernel innards won't work - > ps an

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-21 Thread Artem Belevich
> Note that some tools that poke around in kernel innards won't work - > ps and lsof are the most obvious.  ktrace works but the resultant > ktrace.out files need to read with an amd64 kdump. Some of those issues can be solved by using within 32-bit jail statically linked 64-bit binaries. It does

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-21 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Nov-19 17:12:19 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: >I would like to help get this working.. is there a howto somewhere to >setup a i386 jail on amd64? >I used teh instructions on http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine (and pointed >the jail to /compat/i386) I haven't tried wine, but I do have an i386

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-21 Thread perryh
KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > Is there any reason to fear Microsoft viruses infecting Wine programs? In principle, yes, because Wine is supposed to be a complete reimplementation of the win32 API, thus any program that runs differently on Wine than on Windows demonstrates a bug in Wine. (IIRC there are a

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-20 Thread Julian Elischer
KAYVEN RIESE wrote: On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Julian Elischer wrote: xorquew...@googlemail.com wrote: On 2009-11-18 23:19:14, Julian Elischer wrote: Wine is an exceptional bit of software, in many ways. http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine "FreeBSD currently lacks support for 32bit ports on a 64

RE: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail - for stupid peaple only

2009-11-20 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
ckers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail - for stupid peaple only Fulano Tal wrote: Use IPMI to read architecture information is easy, but a nice ploy is to sed-out i386 and amd64 related #ifdefs, and have nightmares with chains... sorry, I mean You will have a bi-archtecture s

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-20 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Julian Elischer wrote: xorquew...@googlemail.com wrote: On 2009-11-18 23:19:14, Julian Elischer wrote: Wine is an exceptional bit of software, in many ways. http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine "FreeBSD currently lacks support for 32bit ports on a 64bit system. Howeve

RE: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail - for stupid peaple only

2009-11-20 Thread Fulano Tal
neither I believe I was sober, bleh :P Underdog - planning to write a book now > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:43:17 -0800 > From: jul...@elischer.org > To: gatinhodosseusson...@hotmail.com > CC: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail - for stu

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail - for stupid peaple only

2009-11-20 Thread Julian Elischer
Fulano Tal wrote: Use IPMI to read architecture information is easy, but a nice ploy is to sed-out i386 and amd64 related #ifdefs, and have nightmares with chains... sorry, I mean You will have a bi-archtecture system after some work with a cool new personalized tables compatible with 32 and 64

RE: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail - for stupid peaple only

2009-11-20 Thread Fulano Tal
ot; nevermind. > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:29:56 + > From: xorquew...@googlemail.com > To: sfour...@gmail.com > CC: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail > > On 2009-11-19 17:12:19, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > > > > I would like to he

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-19 Thread xorquewasp
On 2009-11-19 17:12:19, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > > I would like to help get this working.. is there a howto somewhere to > setup a i386 jail on amd64? > I used teh instructions on http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine (and pointed > the jail to /compat/i386) > Inside teh jail uname -a still produces this:

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-19 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:57 AM, wrote: > Hello. > > I've done a lot of reading on this problem and don't understand why what I > have > doesn't work. > >  http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine > > I have an entirely 32 bit jail, created by cross-compiling the world with > TARGET=i386 and creating a jai

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-19 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 06:27:18AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > xorquew...@googlemail.com wrote: > >On 2009-11-18 23:19:14, Julian Elischer wrote: > >>Wine is an exceptional bit of software, in many ways. > >>One way it is exceptional is that it uses the system in a number of > >>ways that nothi

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-19 Thread Julian Elischer
xorquew...@googlemail.com wrote: On 2009-11-18 23:19:14, Julian Elischer wrote: Wine is an exceptional bit of software, in many ways. One way it is exceptional is that it uses the system in a number of ways that nothing else does. For example it sets various special segment register settings an

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-19 Thread xorquewasp
On 2009-11-19 12:15:18, Kostik Belousov wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 09:36:54AM +, xorquew...@googlemail.com wrote: > > It is in 8.0. Excellent, thanks. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freeb

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-19 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 09:36:54AM +, xorquew...@googlemail.com wrote: > On 2009-11-19 11:25:48, Kostik Belousov wrote: > > > I'm using 7.2-RELEASE-p4 here. > > > > Required syscalls only implemented in 8/HEAD. > > Ah, thanks. > > I assume they won't have made it into 8.0-RELEASE when it sho

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-19 Thread xorquewasp
On 2009-11-19 11:25:48, Kostik Belousov wrote: > > I'm using 7.2-RELEASE-p4 here. > > Required syscalls only implemented in 8/HEAD. Ah, thanks. I assume they won't have made it into 8.0-RELEASE when it shows up? xw ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mail

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-19 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 09:22:14AM +, xorquew...@googlemail.com wrote: > On 2009-11-19 11:03:41, Kostik Belousov wrote: > > > > You forgot to note the version of the kernel you use. > > I'm using 7.2-RELEASE-p4 here. Required syscalls only implemented in 8/HEAD. pgprTLunyoRuu.pgp Descripti

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-19 Thread xorquewasp
On 2009-11-19 11:03:41, Kostik Belousov wrote: > > You forgot to note the version of the kernel you use. I'm using 7.2-RELEASE-p4 here. xw ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubsc

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-19 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 07:38:18AM +, xorquew...@googlemail.com wrote: > On 2009-11-18 23:19:14, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > Wine is an exceptional bit of software, in many ways. > > One way it is exceptional is that it uses the system in a number of > > ways that nothing else does. For exam

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-18 Thread xorquewasp
On 2009-11-18 23:19:14, Julian Elischer wrote: > > Wine is an exceptional bit of software, in many ways. > One way it is exceptional is that it uses the system in a number of > ways that nothing else does. For example it sets various special > segment register settings and defines several differen

Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-18 Thread Julian Elischer
xorquew...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello. I've done a lot of reading on this problem and don't understand why what I have doesn't work. http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine I have an entirely 32 bit jail, created by cross-compiling the world with TARGET=i386 and creating a jail from DESTDIR. The jail

Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-18 Thread xorquewasp
Hello. I've done a lot of reading on this problem and don't understand why what I have doesn't work. http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine I have an entirely 32 bit jail, created by cross-compiling the world with TARGET=i386 and creating a jail from DESTDIR. The jail appears to be fully functional - a