Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-17 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Mark Newton wrote ... > dannyman wrote: > > > The point of it is, it's easy enough to download the floppies, but > > it's really hard to boot a system off an .flp image. :p > > 1. boot single-user > 2. dd if=/some/dir/boot.flp of=/dev/da0s1b > 3. reboot > 4. When boot1 gives you the 5-se

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-17 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Mark Newton wrote ... > dannyman wrote: > > > The point of it is, it's easy enough to download the floppies, but > > it's really hard to boot a system off an .flp image. :p > > 1. boot single-user > 2. dd if=/some/dir/boot.flp of=/dev/da0s1b > 3. reboot > 4. When boot1 gives you the 5-s

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-16 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:48:22 MST, dannyman wrote: > The point of it is, it's easy enough to download the floppies, but > it's really hard to boot a system off an .flp image. :p Presumably you saw the posted trick about dd'ing the floppy image to your swap partition and booting off _that_? :-)

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-16 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:48:22 MST, dannyman wrote: > The point of it is, it's easy enough to download the floppies, but > it's really hard to boot a system off an .flp image. :p Presumably you saw the posted trick about dd'ing the floppy image to your swap partition and booting off _that_? :-)

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-16 Thread Mark Newton
dannyman wrote: > The point of it is, it's easy enough to download the floppies, but > it's really hard to boot a system off an .flp image. :p 1. boot single-user 2. dd if=/some/dir/boot.flp of=/dev/da0s1b 3. reboot 4. When boot1 gives you the 5-second paused baton, press any key 5. enter

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-16 Thread dannyman
On Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 12:29:42PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:51:10 MST, dannyman wrote: > > > Uhmmm, what if we don't have a floppy drive? > > Then you probably have a CDROM drive or a network interface, both of > which can be used to get sysinstall onto your machine. :

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-16 Thread Mark Newton
dannyman wrote: > The point of it is, it's easy enough to download the floppies, but > it's really hard to boot a system off an .flp image. :p 1. boot single-user 2. dd if=/some/dir/boot.flp of=/dev/da0s1b 3. reboot 4. When boot1 gives you the 5-second paused baton, press any key 5. enter

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-16 Thread dannyman
On Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 12:29:42PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:51:10 MST, dannyman wrote: > > > Uhmmm, what if we don't have a floppy drive? > > Then you probably have a CDROM drive or a network interface, both of > which can be used to get sysinstall onto your machine.

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-14 Thread David Scheidt
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Nick Sayer wrote: > dannyman wrote: > > > > Uhmmm, what if we don't have a floppy drive? > > Do the old SunOS trick: > > 1. Boot single user. > > 2. dd the boot floppy image to your swap partition. To really do the ScumOS trick, you should just assume that the swap parti

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-14 Thread Karl Denninger
Oh, that's incredibly cute. I've gotta remember that one. -- -- Karl Denninger (k...@denninger.net) Web: childrens-justice.org Tired of the broken divorce system in the United States and what it's doing to our kids? SIGN the online petition for equal parental - and children's - rights at the

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-14 Thread Nick Sayer
dannyman wrote: > > Uhmmm, what if we don't have a floppy drive? Do the old SunOS trick: 1. Boot single user. 2. dd the boot floppy image to your swap partition. 3. Reboot, specifying wd(0,b)/kernel (or appropriate). ? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-14 Thread David Scheidt
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Nick Sayer wrote: > dannyman wrote: > > > > Uhmmm, what if we don't have a floppy drive? > > Do the old SunOS trick: > > 1. Boot single user. > > 2. dd the boot floppy image to your swap partition. To really do the ScumOS trick, you should just assume that the swap part

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-14 Thread Karl Denninger
Oh, that's incredibly cute. I've gotta remember that one. -- -- Karl Denninger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Web: childrens-justice.org Tired of the broken divorce system in the United States and what it's doing to our kids? SIGN the online petition for equal parental - and children's - rights at the

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-14 Thread Nick Sayer
dannyman wrote: > > Uhmmm, what if we don't have a floppy drive? Do the old SunOS trick: 1. Boot single user. 2. dd the boot floppy image to your swap partition. 3. Reboot, specifying wd(0,b)/kernel (or appropriate). ? S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-14 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:51:10 MST, dannyman wrote: > Uhmmm, what if we don't have a floppy drive? Then you probably have a CDROM drive or a network interface, both of which can be used to get sysinstall onto your machine. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org w

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-14 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:51:10 MST, dannyman wrote: > Uhmmm, what if we don't have a floppy drive? Then you probably have a CDROM drive or a network interface, both of which can be used to get sysinstall onto your machine. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-13 Thread dannyman
On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 12:07:41AM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > The use of /stand/sysinstall to do a live upgrade has always been > discouraged, though it's not outright disallowed since I believe in > every man's right to blow his feet off if he really wants to. > > Nonetheless, for the expe

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-13 Thread dannyman
On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 12:07:41AM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > The use of /stand/sysinstall to do a live upgrade has always been > discouraged, though it's not outright disallowed since I believe in > every man's right to blow his feet off if he really wants to. > > Nonetheless, for the exp

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-11 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:34:59 -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > I suggest that it would be beneficial for you to let them shoot off > their feet... I have used legacy sysinstall to upgrade a live > multiuser system before and will probably do so again. Hair-raising. :-) Anyway, I've snuffled arou

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-11 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:34:59 -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > I suggest that it would be beneficial for you to let them shoot off > their feet... I have used legacy sysinstall to upgrade a live > multiuser system before and will probably do so again. Hair-raising. :-) Anyway, I've snuffled aro

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-11 Thread Tim Vanderhoek
On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 01:10:44AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > I'll feel more comfortable about letting them shoot their feet off if > you can point out _any_ way in which it might be beneficial for them to > do so. :-) I suggest that it would be beneficial for you to let them shoot off their

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-11 Thread Tim Vanderhoek
On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 01:10:44AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > I'll feel more comfortable about letting them shoot their feet off if > you can point out _any_ way in which it might be beneficial for them to > do so. :-) I suggest that it would be beneficial for you to let them shoot off thei

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-11 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:08:10 CST, Wes Peters wrote: > It's OK to let the users shoot their feet off, but they may not know > they're about to shoot their feet off. Giving them an alert would be > polite. I'll feel more comfortable about letting them shoot their feet off if you can point out _a

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-11 Thread Wes Peters
Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:07:41 MST, "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > Nonetheless, for the expected installation experience one is > > encouraged to boot the desired OS release's installation media and > > select an upgrade instead of a new install. > > Gotcha. > > So you'

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-11 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:08:10 CST, Wes Peters wrote: > It's OK to let the users shoot their feet off, but they may not know > they're about to shoot their feet off. Giving them an alert would be > polite. I'll feel more comfortable about letting them shoot their feet off if you can point out _

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-11 Thread Wes Peters
Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:07:41 MST, "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > Nonetheless, for the expected installation experience one is > > encouraged to boot the desired OS release's installation media and > > select an upgrade instead of a new install. > > Gotcha. > > So you

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-11 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:07:41 MST, "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > Nonetheless, for the expected installation experience one is > encouraged to boot the desired OS release's installation media and > select an upgrade instead of a new install. Gotcha. So you'd be interested in diffs that teach sysi

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-11 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:07:41 MST, "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > Nonetheless, for the expected installation experience one is > encouraged to boot the desired OS release's installation media and > select an upgrade instead of a new install. Gotcha. So you'd be interested in diffs that teach sys

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-11 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
The use of /stand/sysinstall to do a live upgrade has always been discouraged, though it's not outright disallowed since I believe in every man's right to blow his feet off if he really wants to. Nonetheless, for the expected installation experience one is encouraged to boot the desired OS release

Re: Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-10 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
The use of /stand/sysinstall to do a live upgrade has always been discouraged, though it's not outright disallowed since I believe in every man's right to blow his feet off if he really wants to. Nonetheless, for the expected installation experience one is encouraged to boot the desired OS releas

Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-10 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Hi folks, I've just gotten feedback from PR 12777, in which at least 2 people are complaining that sysinstall as installed by 3.1-RELEASE can not be used to upgrade a live machine to 3.2-RELEASE on the fly. I've told both parties that they need to use a boot floppy with the correct version of sy

Using legacy sysinstall to upgrade live system

1999-08-10 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Hi folks, I've just gotten feedback from PR 12777, in which at least 2 people are complaining that sysinstall as installed by 3.1-RELEASE can not be used to upgrade a live machine to 3.2-RELEASE on the fly. I've told both parties that they need to use a boot floppy with the correct version of s