Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-06 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:51:10 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:31:51 +0200, "Paul B. Mahol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 7/4/08, Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is why there are precompiled packages on ftp.freebsd.org which you can

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-06 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:31:51 +0200, "Paul B. Mahol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/4/08, Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> This is why there are precompiled packages on ftp.freebsd.org which you >>> can install with 'pkg_add -r'. You can install them from any FTP >>> mirror, actually; ju

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-06 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:38:37 +0300, "Aggelidis Nikos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm sorry I started a kind of flame war. All I wanted was two >> things: 1. CD's that installed without being switched in and out >> dozens of times. That was fixed by the suggestion of using a DVD. I >> didn't e

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-04 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2008-Jul-03 23:04:10 -0700, Rob Lytle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >FreeBSD partition, and install OpenBSD which has impeccable documentation. Having tried to make sense of the OpenBSD carp documentation, I can only assume that is meant as a joke. -- Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-04 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:26:16 -0700 > From: "Rob Lytle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Kevin, > > The sysinstall dependency problem has existed for 10 years, so I doubt that > its unique to me. It has occurred in every installation I have ever done. > > I use portupgrade for all ports. > > i s

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-04 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 7/4/08, Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This is why there are precompiled packages on ftp.freebsd.org which you >> can install with 'pkg_add -r'. You can install them from any FTP >> mirror, actually; just point PACKAGEROOT at the mirror: > > why isn't this stuff in the docs? oh, it i

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-04 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
"Rob Lytle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i strongly disagree with using ports for huge packages. I don't have the > time to waste compiling. Plus, you are presented with numerous nag screens > so you have to babysit the whole process. This is why there are precompiled packages on ftp.freebsd.or

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-04 Thread Rob Lytle
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Rob Lytle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Greg Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> On 2008-07-03, Rob Lytle wrote: >> >> > > You can get rid of the nag screens by putting "BATCH=yes" into >> > > /etc/make.conf. (Not that this

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-04 Thread Rob Lytle
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Greg Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-07-03, Rob Lytle wrote: > > > > You can get rid of the nag screens by putting "BATCH=yes" into > > > /etc/make.conf. (Not that this negates your other points.) > > > > What the hell does "yes" mean? That all option

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-04 Thread Aggelidis Nikos
> I'm sorry I started a kind of flame war. All I wanted was two things: 1. > CD's that installed without being switched in and out dozens of times. That > was fixed by the suggestion of using a DVD. I didn't even know the DVD > install existed, but will do that next time. > I also had the same

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-03 Thread Simon Cornelius P. Umacob
Rob Lytle wrote: You can get rid of the nag screens by putting "BATCH=yes" into /etc/make.conf. (Not that this negates your other points.) What the hell does "yes" mean? That all option boxes are checked, or none at all? I have never seen this explained anywhere. It means, "yeah, what

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-03 Thread Greg Black
On 2008-07-03, Rob Lytle wrote: > > You can get rid of the nag screens by putting "BATCH=yes" into > > /etc/make.conf. (Not that this negates your other points.) > > What the hell does "yes" mean? That all option boxes are checked, or none > at all? I have never seen this explained anywhere.

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-03 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
Rob Lytle wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rob Lytle wrote: Hi Kevin, The sysinstall dependency problem has existed for 10 years, so I doubt that its unique to me. It has occurred in every installation I have ever done. I use port

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-03 Thread Rob Lytle
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rob Lytle wrote: > >> Hi Kevin, >> >> The sysinstall dependency problem has existed for 10 years, so I doubt >> that >> its unique to me. It has occurred in every installation I have ever done. >> >> I use por

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-03 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
Rob Lytle wrote: Hi Kevin, The sysinstall dependency problem has existed for 10 years, so I doubt that its unique to me. It has occurred in every installation I have ever done. I use portupgrade for all ports. i strongly disagree with using ports for huge packages. I don't have the time to

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-03 Thread Rob Lytle
Hi Kevin, The sysinstall dependency problem has existed for 10 years, so I doubt that its unique to me. It has occurred in every installation I have ever done. I use portupgrade for all ports. i strongly disagree with using ports for huge packages. I don't have the time to waste compiling. P

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-03 Thread Antoine BRUNEL
Hi all I suggest this "flame" to stop right now... because everybody is ok finally I agree with Rob in the fact that 'sysinstall' is a bit disturbing tool with its way of working: the "enter" key, the error messages if HTTP source is unavailable, etc and I confess I had to re-insta

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-03 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:28:50 -0700 > From: "Rob Lytle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi All, > > I'm sorry I started a kind of flame war. All I wanted was two things: 1. > CD's that installed without being switched in and out dozens of times. That > was fixed by the s

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-02 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:28:50 -0700, "Rob Lytle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. Being able to use Sysinstall and not having it crash when a > dependency is already present. Sometimes I like to use Sysinstall to > install gigantic packages where the compile time is 26 hours, e.g KDE > metapackage, a

Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war

2008-07-02 Thread Rob Lytle
Hi All, I'm sorry I started a kind of flame war. All I wanted was two things: 1. CD's that installed without being switched in and out dozens of times. That was fixed by the suggestion of using a DVD. I didn't even know the DVD install existed, but will do that next time. 2. Being able to us