On Thursday, 9 March 2000 at 11:12:21 +1030, Mark Newton wrote:
>
> Another thing which would be useful is the ability to "vinum-ize" an
> existing filesystem without destroying it first. On Solaris and
> IRIX I can do that by creating a logical volume with a single plex
> which just happens to
On Wednesday, 8 March 2000 at 8:15:26 -0700, Wes Peters wrote:
> "Koster, K.J." wrote:
>>
>> Also, I'd really love to be able to configure ccd stripe sets from
>> sysinstall, but I would not be surprised if that was too much to ask. :)
>
> Being able to configure vinum slices would be nice, too.
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 12:12:17PM -0800, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Thursday, 9 March 2000 at 11:12:21 +1030, Mark Newton wrote:
>
> > Another thing which would be useful is the ability to "vinum-ize" an
> > existing filesystem without destroying it first. On Solaris and
> > IRIX I can do th
On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 03:25:33AM +0300, Aleksandr A.Babaylov wrote:
> Yes, it's good.
> But it's better just mount partition on it's own place, no symlinks,
I disagree.
> such as:
> /dev/sd1s1f 3942238 2151773 147508659%/usr
> /dev/sd0s1g98553538016 868677 4%/usr/
Nik Clayton writes:
> Recommended disk and partition layout
>
> In order to reduce space wastage, and provide a flexible partition layout
> for future work, the following disk partition layout is recommended.
>
> First, you need three 'standard' filesystems, of roughly th
On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
> > "Andrey" == Andrey Sverdlichenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> /tmp softlink to /var/tmp (because having two tmp's is stupid)
>
> Andrey> What if /var can't be mounted after crash? /tmp should be
> Andrey> on root filesystem.
> "Andrey" == Andrey Sverdlichenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> /tmp softlink to /var/tmp (because having two tmp's is stupid)
Andrey> What if /var can't be mounted after crash? /tmp should be
Andrey> on root filesystem.
Just create an underlying /var/tmp on the root filesyste
Warner Losh wrote:
>
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wes Peters writes:
> : Being able to configure vinum slices would be nice, too. Especially
> : once Greg commits support for booting from vinum volumes. Think about
> : booting from mirrored volumes for reliability.
>
> Having vinum support
At 9:25 PM -0500 3/8/00, Colin wrote:
> I might be completely out in left field somewhere, but I don't
>see that the defaults should be that important. We're discussing
>what is fundamentally a server oriented system, and realistically
>we have to assume some minimum level of understanding on
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> /tmp softlink to /var/tmp(because having two tmp's is stupid)
What if /var can't be mounted after crash? /tmp should be on root
filesystem.
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Kenny Drobnack wrote:
> I have a suggestion. I have a laptop with Debian Linux on it, and I love
> the way it does the packaging system.
We have command line tools to do all the things you described, and
sysinstall is a GUI front end to the existing package system. As for
wish lists, th
On 08-Mar-2000 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> And as you've seen by subsequent discussion, it's impossible
> to derive a "one size fits all" solution for something like /var.
>
> I would expect this to come out of the "I know where you want it, now
> what kind of install will this be?" question whic
On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 05:30:00PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> Having vinum support in sysinstall would cut into my consulting
> business :-).
"Oh, sorry, let's not do that then!" :-)
> Setting up a mirrored system is hard enough that people
> are hiring consultants to do it.
Yes, I have t
> > I was actually planning a near-complete rewrite of sysinstall anyway! How
> > about everyone throwing in whatever suggestions you would like ( about
> > anything regarding sysinstall ), and I will try to incorporate them!?
>
> It has already been re-written, complete with the new packaging s
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wes Peters writes:
: Being able to configure vinum slices would be nice, too. Especially
: once Greg commits support for booting from vinum volumes. Think about
: booting from mirrored volumes for reliability.
Having vinum support in sysinstall would cut into my c
This looks like as good a place as any to hang this;
On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 09:14:34PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> I'll tell ya, I *never* use the auto-defaults. They are way too
> tiny. A 50MB root barely fits the kernel and you can run it out of
> space doing an installworld.
On 08-Mar-00 Edward Gold wrote:
> Mike Walker wrote:
>
>> > I was using sysinstall the other day and hit Auto defaults just to see
>> > what it suggested, and got this on a 20GB disk:
>> > wd0s1a/ 50MB UFS Y
>> > wd0s1bswap 651MB SWAP
>> > wd0s1e/var
Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in list.freebsd-hackers:
> I'll tell ya, I *never* use the auto-defaults.
Me neither. :-)
> They are way too
> tiny. A 50MB root barely fits the kernel and you can run it out of
> space doing an installworld. I almost always do this
On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
:"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
:> > Or are you saying that the newbie option would just use the
:> > entire disk as one partition (the way that MacOS 10 server
:> > does...)?
:> No, that's evil for a lot of reasons which I won't go into here. :)
:I don'
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
>
> > > No, that's evil for a lot of reasons which I won't go into here. :)
> >
> > I don't agree... A small /, and a huge /usr, with an additional var
>
> Not surprising since you're not even arguing with the point I was
> making. :) I said that a big / was evil.
If
> > No, that's evil for a lot of reasons which I won't go into here. :)
>
> I don't agree... A small /, and a huge /usr, with an additional var
Not surprising since you're not even arguing with the point I was
making. :) I said that a big / was evil.
- Jordan
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"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
>
> > The first time I installed freebsd, I picked numbers that were
> > a little larger than the defaults for '/' and '/var', and still
> > found myself needing to redo the entire installation in less
> > than a week because /var was too small. That was fine enough
>
"Koster, K.J." wrote:
>
> Also, I'd really love to be able to configure ccd stripe sets from
> sysinstall, but I would not be surprised if that was too much to ask. :)
Being able to configure vinum slices would be nice, too. Especially
once Greg commits support for booting from vinum volumes.
> The first time I installed freebsd, I picked numbers that were
> a little larger than the defaults for '/' and '/var', and still
> found myself needing to redo the entire installation in less
> than a week because /var was too small. That was fine enough
And as you've seen by subsequent discus
At 3:06 AM -0800 3/8/00, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > For complete newbies, having "two formatting menus" seems weird
> > too, and may be confusing. (I'm quoting one of my housemates).
>
>For complete newbies, you really only want to ask one question up-front:
>
>"Do you want to use all availa
> For the level above that (and I count myself here) a merged menu might just
> be more user friendly.
And I don't disagree. The only thing which prevented me from merging
them to begin with was the fact that dialog/curses represent an
insufficiently advanced UI technology for taking adequate ad
>
> "Do you want to use all available disk space for
> FreeBSD?"
>
For complete newbies this is indeed better than my suggestion.
For the level above that (and I count myself here) a merged menu might just
be more user friendly.
Kees Jan
==
> For complete newbies, having "two formatting menus" seems weird too, and may
> be confusing. (I'm quoting one of my housemates).
For complete newbies, you really only want to ask one question up-front:
"Do you want to use all available disk space for FreeBSD?"
If the answer is yes, you go
>
> I was actually planning a near-complete rewrite of sysinstall
> anyway! How
> about everyone throwing in whatever suggestions you would like ( about
> anything regarding sysinstall ), and I will try to incorporate them!?
>
Well, I've been toying with ideas on how to integrate the disklabel
:On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 04:06:24AM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote:
:> Luke Hollins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in list.freebsd-hackers:
:> > I was using sysinstall the other day and hit Auto defaults just to see
:> > what it suggested, and got this on a 20GB disk:
:> > wd0s1a/ 50MB
On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 04:06:24AM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Luke Hollins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in list.freebsd-hackers:
> > I was using sysinstall the other day and hit Auto defaults just to see
> > what it suggested, and got this on a 20GB disk:
> > wd0s1a/ 50MB UFS
> Bottom line: I think it should stay the way it is now. :-)
And since I agree, I suspect it will. :)
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Luke Hollins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in list.freebsd-hackers:
> I was using sysinstall the other day and hit Auto defaults just to see
> what it suggested, and got this on a 20GB disk:
> wd0s1a/ 50MB UFS Y
> wd0s1bswap 651MB SWAP
> wd0s1e/var
Mike Walker wrote:
> > I was using sysinstall the other day and hit Auto defaults just to see
> > what it suggested, and got this on a 20GB disk:
> > wd0s1a/ 50MB UFS Y
> > wd0s1bswap 651MB SWAP
> > wd0s1e/var20MB UFS Y
> > wd0s1f/usr 18
> I was using sysinstall the other day and hit Auto defaults just to see
> what it suggested, and got this on a 20GB disk:
> wd0s1a/ 50MB UFS Y
> wd0s1bswap 651MB SWAP
> wd0s1e/var20MB UFS Y
> wd0s1f/usr 18849MB UFS Y
>
> the /var one s
* Luke Hollins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000307 17:49] wrote:
> I was using sysinstall the other day and hit Auto defaults just to see
> what it suggested, and got this on a 20GB disk:
> wd0s1a/ 50MB UFS Y
> wd0s1bswap 651MB SWAP
> wd0s1e/var20MB UFS Y
>
I was using sysinstall the other day and hit Auto defaults just to see
what it suggested, and got this on a 20GB disk:
wd0s1a/ 50MB UFS Y
wd0s1bswap 651MB SWAP
wd0s1e/var20MB UFS Y
wd0s1f/usr 18849MB UFS Y
the /var one struck me as real
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