Re: Real "technical comparison"

2001-06-03 Thread Noses
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >> Thank you for not telling it to one of my servers which is running >> around with about 10 concurrent connections biting its tail. I >> wouldn't like to hurt its feelings. And I've got the feeling that it >> will have to bear a bit more of that bea

Re: Real "technical comparison"

2001-06-01 Thread Terry Lambert
Rik van Riel wrote: > > Thank you for not telling it to one of my servers which is running > > around with about 10 concurrent connections biting its tail. I > > wouldn't like to hurt its feelings. And I've got the feeling that it > > will have to bear a bit more of that beating. > > Interest

Re: Real "technical comparison"

2001-06-01 Thread Terry Lambert
Rik van Riel wrote: > > How about a real benchmark? > > Good question indeed. All proposed benchmarks in this thread > have been geared heavily towards one system or the other and > are not at all "industry standard" benchmarks. > > > At www.spec.org I see SPECweb99 numbers for Solaris, AIX, > >

Re: Real "technical comparison"

2001-06-01 Thread Terry Lambert
"Albert D. Cahalan" wrote: > > > This "postmark" test is useless self flagellation. > > The benchmark tests what it was meant to test: performance > on huge directories. Which is useless, since only degenerate software results in huge directories. I have yet to see one example of software whic

Re: Real "technical comparison"

2001-06-01 Thread Terry Lambert
Rik van Riel wrote: > > On Wed, 30 May 2001, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > The intent of the "test" is obviously intended to show > > certain facts which we all know to be self-evident under > > strange load conditions which are patently "unreal". > > > I would suggest a better test would be to op

Re: Real "technical comparison"

2001-05-31 Thread Rik van Riel
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Søren Schmidt wrote: > If somebody sends me the 800 US$ the software costs, or better > get me the software for free (we are a free OS right) I'll gladly > run it through a variety of machines here... If you think this is the problem, I'll happily chip in $50; it would be i

Re: Real "technical comparison"

2001-05-31 Thread Søren Schmidt
It seems Rik van Riel wrote: > > At www.spec.org I see SPECweb99 numbers for Solaris, AIX, > > Linux, Windows, Tru64, and HP-UX. FreeBSD must be hiding, > > because I don't see it. BSDI, Walnut Creek, and WindRiver > > all have failed to submit results. > > > Linux is still #1 for 1 to 4 processo

Re: Real "technical comparison"

2001-05-31 Thread Rik van Riel
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Noses wrote: > Thank you for not telling it to one of my servers which is running > around with about 10 concurrent connections biting its tail. I > wouldn't like to hurt its feelings. And I've got the feeling that it > will have to bear a bit more of that beating. Inter

Re: Real "technical comparison"

2001-05-31 Thread Rik van Riel
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: > > I would suggest a better test would be to open _at least_ > > 250,000 connections to a server running under both FreeBSD > > and Linux. I was able to do this without breaking a sweat > > on a correctly configured FreeBSD 4.3 system. > > How abou

Re: Real "technical comparison"

2001-05-31 Thread Noses
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2001, Terry Lambert wrote: >> I would suggest a better test would be to open _at least_ 250,000 >> connections to a server > > That would certainly qualify for the "patently unreal" part, but I don't > know what else you want to prove he

Re: Real "technical comparison"

2001-05-31 Thread Doug Barton
Rik van Riel wrote: > > On Wed, 30 May 2001, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > The intent of the "test" is obviously intended to show > > certain facts which we all know to be self-evident under > > strange load conditions which are patently "unreal". > > > I would suggest a better test would be to op

Re: Real "technical comparison"

2001-05-30 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
> This "postmark" test is useless self flagellation. The benchmark tests what it was meant to test: performance on huge directories. > The intent of the "test" is obviously intended to show > certain facts which we all know to be self-evident under > strange load conditions which are patently "

Re: Real "technical comparison"

2001-05-30 Thread Rik van Riel
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Terry Lambert wrote: > The intent of the "test" is obviously intended to show > certain facts which we all know to be self-evident under > strange load conditions which are patently "unreal". > I would suggest a better test would be to open _at least_ > 250,000 connections t