Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-28 Thread Julian Elischer
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Nielsen wrote: > IPFW's forwarding feature can be used for transparent proxying on another > machine. To do it on the same machine, you'd probably need to use NAT. no you can use fwd on thesame machine too. just fwd to a local address. > > Nate > > > I haven't actual

Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-28 Thread Nielsen
IPFW's forwarding feature can be used for transparent proxying on another machine. To do it on the same machine, you'd probably need to use NAT. Nate > I haven't actually tried this, but shouldn't it be possible > to use IPFW's forwarding feature for that? For example, > let sendmail run on por

Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-27 Thread Oliver Fromme
Sorry for the late reply (I don't skim through the hackers list very often). Paul Schenkeveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For many applications however, for example lpd, named, sendmail, > tac_plus and others, it would be more than good enough to run that > program as a normal, non-root user

Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-25 Thread Mikko Työläjärvi
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Paul Schenkeveld wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:31:59AM +0200, tho wrote: > > hi Paul, > > > > have you considered using a "file descriptor passing" based technique > > (section 14.7 of Stevens' UNPv1) ? > > > > you may have a process with suser privs whic

Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-24 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
You can get a somewhat similar effect right now (that is, root being not permitted to mess with your files) by using "cfs." Ok, true, root can still destroy your files by using the underlying "real" file system, but he can't view or manipulate them in their plaintext form. I must say that wh

Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-24 Thread David P. Reese Jr.
On Mon, 23 Sep, 2002, Lamont Granquist wrote: >> Maybe just replace all suser(9) uses with MAC credential checks, and >> install MAC_UNIX by default, which would be set up to behave like >> ye olden UNIX... Who knows. > >Something like that sounds like a really good idea. I'd like to see this >n

Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-24 Thread Paul Schenkeveld
Hi Thomas, On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:31:59AM +0200, tho wrote: > hi Paul, > > have you considered using a "file descriptor passing" based technique > (section 14.7 of Stevens' UNPv1) ? > > you may have a process with suser privs which creates file descriptors > (e.g. socket bind()ed to a part

Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-23 Thread Michał Belczyk
On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 04:14:53PM +0200, Paul Schenkeveld wrote: > I've been playing with jails for over 2 years now. I really like > them but we often use them to run a process as root with reduced > power only to get access to TCP and UDP ports below 1024. > > For many applications however, f

Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-23 Thread Juli Mallett
* De: Lamont Granquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ Data: 2002-09-23 ] [ Subjecte: Re: Just a wild idea ] > > On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Juli Mallett wrote: > > Maybe just replace all suser(9) uses with MAC credential checks, and > > install MAC_UNIX by default, which would

Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-23 Thread Lamont Granquist
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Juli Mallett wrote: > Maybe just replace all suser(9) uses with MAC credential checks, and > install MAC_UNIX by default, which would be set up to behave like > ye olden UNIX... Who knows. Something like that sounds like a really good idea. I'd like to see this not only fo

Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-23 Thread Bruce M Simpson
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 08:29:15AM +0200, John Hay wrote: > > better to have a definition of what are restricted ports for each jail > > than to redefine what root is > > > > (1024 numbers is only 32 words of bitmask) > > Sometimes I think the below 1024 check is outdated. What about a flag

Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-22 Thread John Hay
> > > > > > I've been playing with jails for over 2 years now. I really like > > > them but we often use them to run a process as root with reduced > > > power only to get access to TCP and UDP ports below 1024. > > > > > > For many applications however, for example lpd, named, sendmail, > > >

Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-22 Thread Julian Elischer
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Juli Mallett wrote: > * De: Paul Schenkeveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ Data: 2002-09-22 ] > [ Subjecte: Just a wild idea ] > > Hi All, > > > > I've been playing with jails for over 2 years now. I really like > > them but we often use them to run a process as root with r

Re: Just a wild idea

2002-09-22 Thread Juli Mallett
* De: Paul Schenkeveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ Data: 2002-09-22 ] [ Subjecte: Just a wild idea ] > Hi All, > > I've been playing with jails for over 2 years now. I really like > them but we often use them to run a process as root with reduced > power only to get access to TCP and UDP ports