Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-14 Thread amn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I guess I incorrectly assumed that the card only had a problem with > falsely marking packets as bad, and not marking bad ones as good. That is the impression I was left with using hardware with some different Broadcom parts, (about a year ago). Possibly also conne

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:19:18PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Has anyone tapped the manufacturer on the shoulder hard enough to > > get an answer? > > "Why are you not using Linux or another supported OS?" It's not like they support development of the Linux tg3 driver

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Terry Lambert
Peter Wemm wrote: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > Has anyone tapped the manufacturer on the shoulder hard enough to > > get an answer? > > "Why are you not using Linux or another supported OS?" > > No, they so far have steadfastly refused to supply information about bugs > and errata in such a way th

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Peter Wemm
Terry Lambert wrote: > Has anyone tapped the manufacturer on the shoulder hard enough to > get an answer? "Why are you not using Linux or another supported OS?" No, they so far have steadfastly refused to supply information about bugs and errata in such a way that we could use them in an open s

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* David Greenman-Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020513 15:40] wrote: > >* David Greenman-Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020513 13:10] wrote: > >> > >>The card doesn't drop the packet if the IP/TCP checksum is wrong. In my > >> tests, I did a software checksum on the supposedly bad packet, and f

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread David Greenman-Lawrence
>Actually, if you could find one of these, it would probably give >enough information that we could figure out what kind of error it >was giving. If it's just the incremental checksum 0x (-0) >problem from one's complement vs. two's complement, then you could >be sure that it was only bad pac

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Terry Lambert
Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * David Greenman-Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020513 13:10] wrote: > >The card doesn't drop the packet if the IP/TCP checksum is wrong. In my > > tests, I did a software checksum on the supposedly bad packet, and found it > > to be good every time. So it DMA's correc

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread David Greenman-Lawrence
>* David Greenman-Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020513 13:10] wrote: >> >>The card doesn't drop the packet if the IP/TCP checksum is wrong. In my >> tests, I did a software checksum on the supposedly bad packet, and found it >> to be good every time. So it DMA's correctly, the checksum is jus

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* David Greenman-Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020513 13:10] wrote: > >The card doesn't drop the packet if the IP/TCP checksum is wrong. In my > tests, I did a software checksum on the supposedly bad packet, and found it > to be good every time. So it DMA's correctly, the checksum is just cal

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread David Greenman-Lawrence
>David Greenman-Lawrence wrote: >> >Was the result a rejected packet that didn't get transferred, or >> >transferred packets with bad checksums? >> > >> >If the latter, then it's workaroundable in software, which might >> >be worth doing... if only rechecking packets with bad checksums. >> >I fear

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Terry Lambert
David Greenman-Lawrence wrote: > >Was the result a rejected packet that didn't get transferred, or > >transferred packets with bad checksums? > > > >If the latter, then it's workaroundable in software, which might > >be worth doing... if only rechecking packets with bad checksums. > >I fear the fo

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread David Greenman-Lawrence
>> :Can you guys elaborate on the problem? Was it on incoming checksums, >> :outgoing checksums, or both? >> >> It was on incoming checksums I believe. > >Was the result a rejected packet that didn't get transferred, or >transferred packets with bad checksums? > >If the latter, then it's wor

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Terry Lambert
David Greenman-Lawrence wrote: > >My local copy of the -STABLE source tree leaves BGE_CSUM_FEATURES set > >on in the driver; is there a change that needs to be MFC'ed to turn > >these suckers off? > ... > >There's no similar comment in the if_bge.c ... > >See rev 1.5 and 1.3.2.5 of if_bge.c.

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> This change was made on 14-December-01 by DG. Anyone with an earlier :> driver may be running with checksums enabled. : :OK... Ugh. Any way to get the word "checksum" into that comment? :I plead search-blindness. : : :> :Can you guys elaborate on the problem? Was it on incoming chec

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Terry Lambert
Matthew Dillon wrote: > Yup. Of course I am completely Jaded now after listening to B.P. > curse the chipset while he was debugging it :-) I like B.P. 8-). > :My local copy of the -STABLE source tree leaves BGE_CSUM_FEATURES set > :on in the driver; is there a change that needs to be

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread David Greenman-Lawrence
>My local copy of the -STABLE source tree leaves BGE_CSUM_FEATURES set >on in the driver; is there a change that needs to be MFC'ed to turn >these suckers off? ... >There's no similar comment in the if_bge.c ... See rev 1.5 and 1.3.2.5 of if_bge.c. -DG David Greenman-Lawrence Co-founder, The

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Matthew Dillon
:This is depressing. : :The Dell PowerEdge 2550's use the BGE driver (Tigon III). I'm really :surprised that the problem exists on the Tigon III. My personal :experience with Tigon III's was that the hardware checksumming was :working. Maybe my testing was too lax. 8-(. Yup. Of course I

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Terry Lambert
Matthew Dillon wrote: > :>If you aren't using VLAN tagging, you shouldn't care. > : > : No, that is absolutely not correct. The checksum problems happend in many > :situations, depending on the chipset and other factors. The problem that > :resulted in the commit to disable the receive hardware

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Richard Sharpe
On Mon, 13 May 2002, David Greenman-Lawrence wrote: > >David Greenman-Lawrence wrote: > >> >If you aren't using VLAN tagging, you shouldn't care. > >> > >>No, that is absolutely not correct. The checksum problems happend in many > >> situations, depending on the chipset and other factors. Th

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread David Greenman-Lawrence
>David Greenman-Lawrence wrote: >> >If you aren't using VLAN tagging, you shouldn't care. >> >>No, that is absolutely not correct. The checksum problems happend in many >> situations, depending on the chipset and other factors. The problem that >> resulted in the commit to disable the receive

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Terry Lambert
David Greenman-Lawrence wrote: > >If you aren't using VLAN tagging, you shouldn't care. > >No, that is absolutely not correct. The checksum problems happend in many > situations, depending on the chipset and other factors. The problem that > resulted in the commit to disable the receive hardw

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Matthew Dillon
:>If you aren't using VLAN tagging, you shouldn't care. : : No, that is absolutely not correct. The checksum problems happend in many :situations, depending on the chipset and other factors. The problem that :resulted in the commit to disable the receive hardware checksum was caused :by small p

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread David Greenman-Lawrence
>Jamie Heckford wrote: >> I read in the mailling lists mentions of hardware checksum problems >> with the chipset.. did anyone know what the final outcome with >> this problem was and if any changes had been MFC'd? > >The problems were only when coupled with VLAN tagging. > >I'm not sure if the 57

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 Chipset problems

2002-05-13 Thread Terry Lambert
Jamie Heckford wrote: > I read in the mailling lists mentions of hardware checksum problems > with the chipset.. did anyone know what the final outcome with > this problem was and if any changes had been MFC'd? The problems were only when coupled with VLAN tagging. I'm not sure if the 5701 was s