Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-21 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Freddie Cash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On November 20, 2008 02:42 am Nate Eldredge wrote: >> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:48:36PM -0800, Nate Eldredge wrote: >> >> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> >>> O

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-20 Thread Freddie Cash
On November 20, 2008 02:42 am Nate Eldredge wrote: > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:48:36PM -0800, Nate Eldredge wrote: > >> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:39:36PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > I hope that

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-20 Thread Kevin Day
On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:03 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: This has two problems, but I'm probably missing something: 1) See my original post, re: users of our systems use "dmesg" to find out what the status of the system is. By "status" I don't mean "from the point the kernel finished to now", I li

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-20 Thread Nate Eldredge
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:48:36PM -0800, Nate Eldredge wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:39:36PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: I hope that never gets committed - it will make debugging kernel problems muc

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-20 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:53:07AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Peter Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This is deliberate. If the system panics, stuff that was in the > > > message buffer (and might not be on disk) can be read when the

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-20 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:48:36PM -0800, Nate Eldredge wrote: > On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:39:36PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > >>> I hope that never gets committed - it will make debugging kernel >>> problems much harder. There is already a kern.m

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-20 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Peter Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > This is deliberate. If the system panics, stuff that was in the > > message buffer (and might not be on disk) can be read when the > > system reboots. If there is no crashdump, this might be the only > > re

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-19 Thread Nate Eldredge
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:39:36PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: I hope that never gets committed - it will make debugging kernel problems much harder. There is already a kern.msgbuf_clear sysctl and maybe people who are concerned about msgbuf leakage

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:39:36PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2008-Nov-19 02:47:31 -0800, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >There's a known "issue" with the kernel message buffer though: it's not > >NULL'd out upon reboot. > > This is deliberate. If the system panics, stuff that

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-19 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2008-Nov-19 02:47:31 -0800, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There's a known "issue" with the kernel message buffer though: it's not >NULL'd out upon reboot. This is deliberate. If the system panics, stuff that was in the message buffer (and might not be on disk) can be read when th

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-19 Thread Carlos A. M. dos Santos
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Ed Schouten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Carlos, others, > > * Ed Schouten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> About the /dev/console issues: Robert Watson and I discussed this some >> time ago on IRC and what I did in HEAD (not RELENG_7) was that I changed >> TIOCC

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 02:02:42AM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:49 PM, David Wolfskill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: > >> ... > >> One solution would be to let xconsole just display /var/log/messages. > > > >

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-19 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:49 PM, David Wolfskill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: >> ... >> One solution would be to let xconsole just display /var/log/messages. > > Errr... it may be rather a pathological case, but you might want to > check

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-18 Thread David Wolfskill
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: > ... > One solution would be to let xconsole just display /var/log/messages. Errr... it may be rather a pathological case, but you might want to check the content of /etc/syslog.conf on the local machine before getting too carried away

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-18 Thread Ed Schouten
Hello Carlos, others, * Ed Schouten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > About the /dev/console issues: Robert Watson and I discussed this some > time ago on IRC and what I did in HEAD (not RELENG_7) was that I changed > TIOCCONS not to take a look at the permissions of /dev/console, but we > changed it t

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-01 Thread Eygene Ryabinkin
Ed, good day. Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:11:54AM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: > It's nice to hear that the patch didn't break anything on your system. I > hope to receive more reviews, but I think I'll just commit it this > weekend (with small modifications). Just a quick "me too" message: patchset fro

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-10-28 Thread Ed Schouten
Hello Carlos, * Carlos A. M. dos Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The patched source builds and installs flawlessy. However I observed > something that seems to be a regression. If I run either xconsole or > xterm -C I only see kernel messages, even though my X startup (via > XDM) changes the o

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-10-27 Thread Carlos A. M. dos Santos
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Ed Schouten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Most of you probably already know that I've been very busy improving our > kernel's TTY implementation. I've committed the new MPSAFE TTY layer > back in August. So far most of the things seem to work prop