Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-09 Thread Joe Greco
> :In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matt Dillon writes: > :: : -b 16384 -f 4096 -c 159 > :: I think Bruce swears by 4K (page-sized) fragments. Not a bad > :: way to go. I use 2K because I (and others) put in so much hard work > :: to fix all the little niggling bugs in the VM system r

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-08 Thread Matt Dillon
:On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 05:53:18AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :> :> How frequently do people fsck? : :Once per reboot usually. : :Joe :-- :Josef Karthauser [[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]] No, that's an fsck -p ... if the filesystem is clean, it doesn't do anything.

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-08 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > How frequently do people fsck? Well, that depends on whether I'm attached atm or not. Oh, you mean filesystems? :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The bronze landed last, w

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-08 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 05:53:18AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > How frequently do people fsck? Once per reboot usually. Joe -- Josef Karthauser[[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]] . FreeBSD: The power to change the world To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL P

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-08 Thread Christoph Sold
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > > How frequently do people fsck? Only at boot time, or when problems surface. Just my $.02 -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread 207 . 100
How frequently do people fsck? -- TJ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Darren Pilgrim
This is a interesting topic (to me, anyway), and is one of the things that often gets overlooked by those of us with less experience. Rather than getting into a long discussion about modifying the newfs defaults across the board, what if the newfs options used were based on the size of the FS? T

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Dec 07), Matt Dillon said: > Well, too-large a C/G will result in greater file fragmentation, > because FFS can't manage the file layouts in the cylinder groups as > well. The default of 16 is definitely too little. 100+ is probably > too much. Something in the middle will

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Matt Dillon
: :In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matt Dillon writes: :: :-b 16384 -f 4096 -c 159 :: I think Bruce swears by 4K (page-sized) fragments. Not a bad :: way to go. I use 2K because I (and others) put in so much hard work :: to fix all the little niggling bugs in the VM system relate

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matt Dillon writes: : : -b 16384 -f 4096 -c 159 : I think Bruce swears by 4K (page-sized) fragments. Not a bad : way to go. I use 2K because I (and others) put in so much hard work : to fix all the little niggling bugs in the VM system related to pa

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The default filesystem parameters are: > > newfs -f 1024 -b 8192 -i 8192 -c 16 ... -i 4096 -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes: >> So far I don't see any indication here (or elsewhere) that anybody >> has that grasp. >> >> I guess that is really a testimony to FFS/UFS's qualites... >> >> The main thing is that you significantly reduce your fsck time if >> you redu

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001207 00:52] wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes: > > >I'd do it, but I don't really have a grasp on the optimal parameters > >to set based on FS size. > > So far I don't see any indication here (or elsewhere) that anybody >

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes: >I'd do it, but I don't really have a grasp on the optimal parameters >to set based on FS size. So far I don't see any indication here (or elsewhere) that anybody has that grasp. I guess that is really a testimony to FFS/UFS's qualites...

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Jordan Hubbard
> It would be nice to up the default cylinders/group in sysinstall > for larger partitions (anything over 8GB). I wouldn't up it to > 159 as a default, but 32 would be a whole lot better then the Well, if somebody wants to figure out the best defaults, they're easily set in sysinstal

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001207 00:25] wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes: > > >> Right now I tend to use: > >> > >>-b 16384 -f 4096 -c 159 > > > >I know you're pretty busy, but any chance of getting this into > >sysinstall? Maybe hindged on the

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes: >> Right now I tend to use: >> >> -b 16384 -f 4096 -c 159 > >I know you're pretty busy, but any chance of getting this into >sysinstall? Maybe hindged on the size of the partition? sysinstall supports you changing the args to newfs,

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Matt Dillon
:In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A G F Keahan writes: :>What parameters should I choose for a large (say, 60 or 80Gb) :>filesystem? I remember a while ago someone (phk?) conducted a survey, :>but nothing seems to have come of it. In the meantime, the capacity of :>an average hard drive has inc

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Matt Dillon
:> :> Right now I tend to use: :> :> -b 16384 -f 4096 -c 159 : :I know you're pretty busy, but any chance of getting this into :sysinstall? Maybe hindged on the size of the partition? : :-- :-Alfred Perlstein - [[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]] :"I have the heart of a child; I keep i

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001207 00:12] wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A G F Keahan writes: > >What parameters should I choose for a large (say, 60 or 80Gb) > >filesystem? I remember a while ago someone (phk?) conducted a survey, > >but nothing seems to have come of it.

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A G F Keahan writes: >What parameters should I choose for a large (say, 60 or 80Gb) >filesystem? I remember a while ago someone (phk?) conducted a survey, >but nothing seems to have come of it. In the meantime, the capacity of >an average hard drive has increased

Re: RE: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-06 Thread Matt Dillon
ED]] :> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 7:53 PM :> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> Subject: Optimal UFS parameters :> :> What parameters should I choose for a large (say, 60 or 80Gb) :> filesystem? I remember a while ago someone (phk?) conducted a survey, :> but nothing seems to

RE: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-06 Thread Matt Simerson
dnesday, December 06, 2000 7:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Optimal UFS parameters > > What parameters should I choose for a large (say, 60 or 80Gb) > filesystem? I remember a while ago someone (phk?) conducted a survey, > but nothing seems to have come of it. In

Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-06 Thread A G F Keahan
What parameters should I choose for a large (say, 60 or 80Gb) filesystem? I remember a while ago someone (phk?) conducted a survey, but nothing seems to have come of it. In the meantime, the capacity of an average hard drive has increased tenfold, and the defaults have become even less reasonab