Trolls are dying (was: Insider's scoop: Why FreeBSD is dying)

2002-08-18 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 18 August 2002 at 2:19:35 -0700, Alfred Pythonstein wrote: > The End of FreeBSD > > [ed. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives > his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD] Former hacker? Did I miss something? [Old news omitted] > -- > To announce that ther

re: Re: Hotmail (was Re: Insider's scoop: Why FreeBSD is dying)

2002-08-18 Thread chromexa
> ** Original Subject: Re: Hotmail (was Re: Insider's scoop: Why FreeBSD is dying) > ** Original Sender: Jordan K Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ** Original Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:43:25 -0400 (EDT) > ** Original Message follows... > > Can we maybe stop de

Re: Hotmail (was Re: Insider's scoop: Why FreeBSD is dying)

2002-08-18 Thread Jordan K Hubbard
Can we maybe stop debating this and just have our postmaster do what he can to filter this kind of noise out? Recycled slashdot trolls are hardly the kind of content we want to see on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and what goes on in IRC has been repeatedly made clear to have nothing to do with the proje

Re: Hotmail (was Re: Insider's scoop: Why FreeBSD is dying)

2002-08-18 Thread Wouter Van Hemel
On Sun, 2002-08-18 at 19:34, Terry Lambert wrote: > > [...] > > So if they were widely deployed, you would expect maybe 8 VIPs > per colocation facility... but you would not expect them to be > in a large, contiguous netblock: you'd expect them to be 8 here, > and 8 there, etc., based on geograp

Re: Insider's scoop: Why FreeBSD is dying

2002-08-18 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 02:48:55AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Examining the headers, it looks like Hotmail has a full class "B" > (64.4/16); that's surprising. Why the heck do they have a full They seem to have 64.4/18. 64/8 and 65/8 are being chopped up for smaller allo

Hotmail (was Re: Insider's scoop: Why FreeBSD is dying)

2002-08-18 Thread Terry Lambert
Andy wrote: > Remember that Hotmail is a part of MSN, and they would have a need for that > many IP addresses, what with their "Internet content" service. Oh, I could definitely see Microsoft needing a lot of VIPs; they would need one per unique, deployed services, and potentially one per "brandi

Re: Insider's scoop: Why FreeBSD is dying

2002-08-18 Thread Andy
Remember that Hotmail is a part of MSN, and they would have a need for that many IP addresses, what with their "Internet content" service. Andy At 03:48 08/18/2002, Terry Lambert wrote: >Wow. > >I guess I'll address the most important point that hit home for me >from that post... > >Examining

Re: Insider's scoop: Why FreeBSD is dying

2002-08-18 Thread Terry Lambert
Wow. I guess I'll address the most important point that hit home for me from that post... Examining the headers, it looks like Hotmail has a full class "B" (64.4/16); that's surprising. Why the heck do they have a full class B?!? If you are using load balancers for distribution, then you basic

Insider's scoop: Why FreeBSD is dying

2002-08-18 Thread Alfred Pythonstein
The End of FreeBSD [ed. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD] When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintai