Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-10-15 Thread Richard Tobin
> Yeah... Think Sun2 systems > > http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/network/netboot/nd.html Though it wasn't just for booting in the old days. On a diskless workstation, your whole filesystem would be on nd. And it was a real mistake to mount a writable partition on two machines, but nothi

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-10-15 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 12:28:12AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:44:14PM +0200, Oldach, Helge wrote: > > > From: Richard Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Ok, GEOM Gate is ready for testing. > > &g

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-10-15 Thread Terry Lambert
Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:44:14PM +0200, Oldach, Helge wrote: > > From: Richard Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Ok, GEOM Gate is ready for testing. > > > > For those who don't know what it is, they can read README: > > &g

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-10-14 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:44:14PM +0200, Oldach, Helge wrote: > From: Richard Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Ok, GEOM Gate is ready for testing. > > > For those who don't know what it is, they can read README: > > > > Aaargh! It's the

RE: GEOM Gate.

2003-10-14 Thread Oldach, Helge
From: Richard Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ok, GEOM Gate is ready for testing. > > For those who don't know what it is, they can read README: > > Aaargh! It's the return of nd(4) from SunOS. Excuse me? # uname -a SunOS galaxy 4.1.4 18 sun4m # man nd No m

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-10-14 Thread Richard Tobin
> Ok, GEOM Gate is ready for testing. > For those who don't know what it is, they can read README: Aaargh! It's the return of nd(4) from SunOS. (Sorry about that.) -- Richard ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.fre

GEOM Gate.

2003-10-14 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
Hello hackers... Ok, GEOM Gate is ready for testing. For those who don't know what it is, they can read README: http://garage.freebsd.pl/geom_gate.README and presentation from WIP/BSDCon03 session: http://garage.freebsd.pl/GEOM_Gate.pdf After compliation (cd geom_gate;

GEOM Gate status.

2003-09-08 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
Hello hackers... I've spend some time working on GEOM Gate, so... Cache was implemented, but only for reading (cache for write requests isn't good idea here, IMHO). Many workers can be used now. This will help to split requests. Requests are queued and always worker with minimal

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-19 Thread Terry Lambert
Attila Nagy wrote: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > It works on firewire and it works on a dual port RAID array (as a > > separate box containing the RAID array). > > What does 'it' means? I guess it's not UFS, but the pure ability of > sharing a device on a bus, connected to more than one adapters. Th

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan Nelson writes: >I think this just demonstrates that you should not run benchmarks with >all your debugging flags enabled :) Most people will not be running >production systems with WITNESS, and parts of the kernel that bog down >under the heavy load of WITNESS

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-17 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Aug 17), Pawel Jakub Dawidek said: > On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 08:50:30PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: > +> What kind of hardware were you using? 2.5MB/sec NFS sounds > +> abysmal. > > I don't think it is a hardware problem. > > Run this test on 5.1-CURRENT with: > > options

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-17 Thread Attila Nagy
Terry Lambert wrote: It works on firewire and it works on a dual port RAID array (as a separate box containing the RAID array). What does 'it' means? I guess it's not UFS, but the pure ability of sharing a device on a bus, connected to more than one adapters. SAN and NAS are also options, but of

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
>+> That said, I think the geom gate stuff looks very cool :-). You might be >+> able to run some interesting performance numbers comparing NFS and UFS >+> over a remote block device. > >Ok. After last geom gate optimizations I'm ready to show some tests. > >NFS

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-16 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 08:50:30PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: +> What kind of hardware were you using? 2.5MB/sec NFS sounds abysmal. I don't think it is a hardware problem. Run this test on 5.1-CURRENT with: options INVARIANTS options INVARIANT_SUPPORT options WITNESS an

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-16 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Aug 17), Pawel Jakub Dawidek said: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 11:53:11AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: > +> That said, I think the geom gate stuff looks very cool :-). You > +> might be able to run some interesting performance numbers > +> comparing NFS

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-16 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 11:53:11AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: +> That said, I think the geom gate stuff looks very cool :-). You might be +> able to run some interesting performance numbers comparing NFS and UFS +> over a remote block device. Ok. After last geom gate optimizations I&#

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Terry Lambert
Attila Nagy wrote: > Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > > It'll be, but probably in read-write mode on one machine and read-only > > mode on rest machines, because you don't export file systems here, but > > disk devices. > > This doesn't work on a shared SCSI bus, so I suspect sharing the device > on t

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 11:01:47AM +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: >On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 06:44:14PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: >+> >But there are two problems: >+> >1. Device major numbers. >+> >+> I don't see this as a problem - you do the name to major/minor mapping >+> on the remote system

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Robert Watson
be written that do synchronization on using a protocol of some sort when talking to a common block device, but that will keep you busy for a while, I expect :-). That said, I think the geom gate stuff looks very cool :-). You might be able to run some interesting performance numbers comparing NFS

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 01:51:03PM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote: > Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > >It'll be, but probably in read-write mode on one machine and read-only > >mode on rest machines, because you don't export file systems here, but > >disk devices. > This doesn't work on a shared SCSI bus, so

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Attila Nagy
Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: It'll be, but probably in read-write mode on one machine and read-only mode on rest machines, because you don't export file systems here, but disk devices. This doesn't work on a shared SCSI bus, so I suspect sharing the device on the net won't help. -- Attila Nagy

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:48:57PM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote: +> Bruce M Simpson wrote: +> >Whatever next? PCI-over-IP? +> Collecting cheap on board serial lines to make a big terminal server +> makes sense to me :) +> +> BTW, Pawel's stuff would be even more interesting if it would be +> possibl

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Attila Nagy
Bruce M Simpson wrote: Whatever next? PCI-over-IP? Collecting cheap on board serial lines to make a big terminal server makes sense to me :) BTW, Pawel's stuff would be even more interesting if it would be possible to mount the same filesystem on more than one machines. -- Attila Nagy

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 06:44:14PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: +> >But there are two problems: +> >1. Device major numbers. +> +> I don't see this as a problem - you do the name to major/minor mapping +> on the remote system. All that goes across the network is the device +> name (filename in /dev

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-15 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:29:09PM +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: >On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:52:25PM +0400, Buckie wrote: >+> BTW, QNX had this for a long time, it's called QNet in there. Allows >+> transparently to mount or use anything in /dev. Even a soundcard! > >I think this isn't really h

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread neq5
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:03:27PM +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > This software provide disk devices mounting through the network. maaan you're amazing. i hope some day you'll write remote terminal emulator. that would be great. -- klub milosnikow czeskiego techno _

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:03:27PM +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > Hello hackers... > > I've done something what will be called GEOM Gate. > This software provide disk devices mounting through the network. > > http://garage.freebsd.pl/geom_gate.tbz Cute...! re

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:52:25PM +0400, Buckie wrote: +> BTW, QNX had this for a long time, it's called QNet in there. Allows +> transparently to mount or use anything in /dev. Even a soundcard! I think this isn't really hard to implement. But there are two problems: 1. Device major numbers. 2.

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Bruce M Simpson
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:52:25PM +0400, Buckie wrote: > BTW, QNX had this for a long time, it's called QNet in there. Allows > transparently to mount or use anything in /dev. Even a soundcard! Whatever next? PCI-over-IP? *shudder* BMS ___ [EMAIL PROTE

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Lars Eggert
Bruce M Simpson wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:52:25PM +0400, Buckie wrote: BTW, QNX had this for a long time, it's called QNet in there. Allows transparently to mount or use anything in /dev. Even a soundcard! Whatever next? PCI-over-IP? *shudder* Not new: http://www.isi.edu/div7/netstation/

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Buckie
BTW, QNX had this for a long time, it's called QNet in there. Allows transparently to mount or use anything in /dev. Even a soundcard! PJD> Hello hackers... PJD> I've done something what will be called GEOM Gate. PJD> This software provide disk devices mounting throug

GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
Hello hackers... I've done something what will be called GEOM Gate. This software provide disk devices mounting through the network. http://garage.freebsd.pl/geom_gate.tbz Installation is quite trivial: # tar -jvxf geom_gate.tbz # cd geom_gate #

Re: GEOM Gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pawel Jakub Dawidek writes : > >--Dx9iWuMxHO1cCoFc >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 >Content-Disposition: inline >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Hello hackers... > >I've done something what wi