Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-27 Thread Mohacsi Janos
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Mike Meyer wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:55:53 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Mike Meyer wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:24:36 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Sm˙˙rgrav w

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-27 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Mike Meyer wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:55:53 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Mike Meyer wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:24:36 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-27 Thread Mike Meyer
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:55:53 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Mike Meyer wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:24:36 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > >>> KAYVEN RIESE <[EM

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-26 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Mike Meyer wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:24:36 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: .rpm is a package format, and comes with a tool set for using it. Most (all?)

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-26 Thread Mike Meyer
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:24:36 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > > > KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> i don't recognize that as what i said, but i was trying to make the > >> point that BSD DOESn't use rpm compres

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-26 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: i don't recognize that as what i said, but i was trying to make the point that BSD DOESn't use rpm compression, and that was a point i was trying to make in terms of comparison/contrast I'm not sure what

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-26 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i don't recognize that as what i said, but i was trying to make the > point that BSD DOESn't use rpm compression, and that was a point i > was trying to make in terms of comparison/contrast I'm not sure what you mean by "rpm compression", since rpm is no

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-25 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: GNU/Linux isn't tied to rpm's; Actually, rpm is part of the Linux Standard Base specification, which all major distributions implement. Debian derivatives use dpkg, but still have a full set of rpm tools.

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-25 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > GNU/Linux isn't tied to rpm's; Actually, rpm is part of the Linux Standard Base specification, which all major distributions implement. Debian derivatives use dpkg, but still have a full set of rpm tools. Most distributions have higher- level package mana

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2008-01-25 13:58, william wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That brings me to another ponder: why juniper and cisco are using > FreeBSD and not Linux even Linux performs better in an UP environment? That's probably something only Juniper and Cisco can answer with a sufficiently high degree of c

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-25 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 01:58:51PM +0800, william wong wrote: > That brings me to another ponder: why juniper and cisco are using > FreeBSD and not Linux even Linux performs better in an UP environment? Other posters have mentioned that there is a mix of Linux and BSD at Cisco. I don't work there

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-25 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
"william wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That brings me to another ponder: why juniper and cisco are using > FreeBSD and not Linux even Linux performs better in an UP environment? Who said Linux performs better in a UP environment? UP performance is close to irrelevant these days anyway; ther

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-25 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I thought freeBSD 7 was still current "bleeding edge?" No, that's FreeBSD 8. FreeBSD 7.0 is very close to release now, and you can already run 7-STABLE if you want to. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread Bert JW Regeer
On Jan 24, 2008, at 22:58 , william wong wrote: That brings me to another ponder: why juniper and cisco are using FreeBSD and not Linux even Linux performs better in an UP environment? 2008/1/25, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: "william wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dag-Erling S

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread william wong
That brings me to another ponder: why juniper and cisco are using FreeBSD and not Linux even Linux performs better in an UP environment? 2008/1/25, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "william wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dag-Erling Smørgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > "willi

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread Mike Meyer
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:25:16 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN RIESE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aren't the ports collection something that makes freeBSD stand out > very differently than linux? also, no rpm, and the pkg_add utility. > updating operating system with cvsup? buildworld? all these things > ar

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Jan 24, 2008, at 3:28 PM, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: I thought freeBSD 7 was still current "bleeding edge?" Soon it will be the 'most current STABLE' branch; 8-CURRENT is absolute bleeding edge. -Garrett PS Please bottom post :). ___ freebsd-hackers@

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
I thought freeBSD 7 was still current "bleeding edge?" On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: "william wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thanks for enlightening me on different aspects. Actually I found there are many exciting network stack projects/overhaul happening in FreeBSD 8. I

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
Aren't the ports collection something that makes freeBSD stand out very differently than linux? also, no rpm, and the pkg_add utility. updating operating system with cvsup? buildworld? all these things are different starkly, or are they not? On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Xin LI wrote: -BEGIN PGP

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread Joel Dahl
william wong skrev: Thanks for enlightening me on different aspects. Actually I found there are many exciting network stack projects/overhaul happening in FreeBSD 8. Take a look at http://wiki.freebsd.org/Networking if working on the networking code in FreeBSD interests you. -- Joel _

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
"william wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dag-Erling Smørgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "william wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It seems that Juniper favors the even number FreeBSD's. > > Only because 5 was a dog. They probably stuck with 4 for a while, then > > switched to 6 onc

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread Wesley Shields
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 11:11:05PM +0800, william wong wrote: > 2008/1/24, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > "william wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Thanks for enlightening me on different aspects. Actually I found there > > > are > > > many exciting network stack projects/over

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread william wong
2008/1/24, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "william wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Thanks for enlightening me on different aspects. Actually I found there are > > many exciting network stack projects/overhaul happening in FreeBSD 8. I just > > want to gear up myself and see what I

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
"william wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thanks for enlightening me on different aspects. Actually I found there are > many exciting network stack projects/overhaul happening in FreeBSD 8. I just > want to gear up myself and see what I can do. I have got 6.3 installed and > tweaking some of the

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread william wong
Thanks for enlightening me on different aspects. Actually I found there are many exciting network stack projects/overhaul happening in FreeBSD 8. I just want to gear up myself and see what I can do. I have got 6.3 installed and tweaking some of the kernel modification and compilation process so tha

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
"william wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Are there any docments or pointers to get me started hacking around my > 6.3 asap? Building toochains, submitting patches etc or i just > follow most of the conventions in the Linux kernel development > community? The toolchain is already in place,

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread Xin LI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 william wong wrote: > Hi, > > Are there any docments or pointers to get me started hacking around my > 6.3asap? Building toochains, submitting patches etc or i just > follow most > of the conventions in the Linux kernel development community? I t

Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-23 Thread timo
-24 15:32:18 收件人: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org 抄送: 主题: FreeBSD hacker 101 Hi, Are there any docments or pointers to get me started hacking around my 6.3asap? Building toochains, submitting patches etc or i just follow most of the conventions in the Linux kernel development community

FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-23 Thread william wong
Hi, Are there any docments or pointers to get me started hacking around my 6.3asap? Building toochains, submitting patches etc or i just follow most of the conventions in the Linux kernel development community? regards, william ___ freebsd-hackers@