Re: Driver Update Disk discussion

2005-02-28 Thread John Baldwin
On Friday 25 February 2005 04:39 am, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On Thu, 2005-Feb-24 17:59:19 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > >- kernel option support. How do we support vendor modules in a kernel > >that might be compiled with PAE (rather common these days), SMP, MAC, > >etc. The loader and /boot infrastru

Re: Driver Update Disk discussion

2005-02-25 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Thu, 2005-Feb-24 17:59:19 -0700, Scott Long wrote: >- kernel option support. How do we support vendor modules in a kernel >that might be compiled with PAE (rather common these days), SMP, MAC, >etc. The loader and /boot infrastructure has no concept of this. It's >highly important, though. A

Re: Driver Update Disk discussion

2005-02-24 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:14, M. Warner Losh wrote: > : I think PORTS_MODULES is a little suboptimal.. > > How so? If you upgrade your ports tree and then rebuild your kernel you may upgrade a port KLD without wanting to. > : Fx5200 Go). It also means that the kernel build/install does not result >

Re: Driver Update Disk discussion

2005-02-24 Thread M. Warner Losh
[[ don't cc freebsd-hackers@ and hackers@ ]] In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Daniel O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:39, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > One does not need to patch the source tree at to pick up ports modules : > for a kernel rebuild. One can bu

Re: Driver Update Disk discussion

2005-02-24 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:39, M. Warner Losh wrote: > One does not need to patch the source tree at to pick up ports modules > for a kernel rebuild. One can build the ports modules as part of the > kernel by simply defining PORTS_MODULES in a kernel config file. In > addition, one can specify absolu

Re: Driver Update Disk discussion

2005-02-24 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scott Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : - runtime support. Where will modules be put, how will they be ensured : to not collide with the base system modules, and how will the system : ensure that they get loaded on every boot. Most of the pieces are in

Driver Update Disk discussion

2005-02-24 Thread Scott Long
The good news is that more and more vendors are supporting FreeBSD directly, many via paid staff to write and maintain drivers, testing labs for QA, and tech support for end-customers. The bad news is that FreeBSD puts up a number of roadblocks that makes their jobs very difficult. While we do