Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-21 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Freddie Cash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On November 20, 2008 02:42 am Nate Eldredge wrote: >> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:48:36PM -0800, Nate Eldredge wrote: >> >> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> >>> O

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-20 Thread Freddie Cash
On November 20, 2008 02:42 am Nate Eldredge wrote: > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:48:36PM -0800, Nate Eldredge wrote: > >> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:39:36PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > I hope that

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-20 Thread Kevin Day
On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:03 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: This has two problems, but I'm probably missing something: 1) See my original post, re: users of our systems use "dmesg" to find out what the status of the system is. By "status" I don't mean "from the point the kernel finished to now", I li

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-20 Thread Nate Eldredge
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:48:36PM -0800, Nate Eldredge wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:39:36PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: I hope that never gets committed - it will make debugging kernel problems muc

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-20 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:53:07AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Peter Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This is deliberate. If the system panics, stuff that was in the > > > message buffer (and might not be on disk) can be read when the

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-20 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:48:36PM -0800, Nate Eldredge wrote: > On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:39:36PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > >>> I hope that never gets committed - it will make debugging kernel >>> problems much harder. There is already a kern.m

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-20 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Peter Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > This is deliberate. If the system panics, stuff that was in the > > message buffer (and might not be on disk) can be read when the > > system reboots. If there is no crashdump, this might be the only > > re

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-19 Thread Nate Eldredge
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:39:36PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: I hope that never gets committed - it will make debugging kernel problems much harder. There is already a kern.msgbuf_clear sysctl and maybe people who are concerned about msgbuf leakage

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:39:36PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2008-Nov-19 02:47:31 -0800, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >There's a known "issue" with the kernel message buffer though: it's not > >NULL'd out upon reboot. > > This is deliberate. If the system panics, stuff that

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-19 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2008-Nov-19 02:47:31 -0800, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There's a known "issue" with the kernel message buffer though: it's not >NULL'd out upon reboot. This is deliberate. If the system panics, stuff that was in the message buffer (and might not be on disk) can be read when th

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-19 Thread Carlos A. M. dos Santos
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Ed Schouten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Carlos, others, > > * Ed Schouten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> About the /dev/console issues: Robert Watson and I discussed this some >> time ago on IRC and what I did in HEAD (not RELENG_7) was that I changed >> TIOCC

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 02:02:42AM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:49 PM, David Wolfskill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: > >> ... > >> One solution would be to let xconsole just display /var/log/messages. > > > >

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-19 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:49 PM, David Wolfskill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: >> ... >> One solution would be to let xconsole just display /var/log/messages. > > Errr... it may be rather a pathological case, but you might want to > check

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-18 Thread David Wolfskill
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: > ... > One solution would be to let xconsole just display /var/log/messages. Errr... it may be rather a pathological case, but you might want to check the content of /etc/syslog.conf on the local machine before getting too carried away

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-18 Thread Ed Schouten
Hello Carlos, others, * Ed Schouten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > About the /dev/console issues: Robert Watson and I discussed this some > time ago on IRC and what I did in HEAD (not RELENG_7) was that I changed > TIOCCONS not to take a look at the permissions of /dev/console, but we > changed it t

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-11-01 Thread Eygene Ryabinkin
Ed, good day. Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:11:54AM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: > It's nice to hear that the patch didn't break anything on your system. I > hope to receive more reviews, but I think I'll just commit it this > weekend (with small modifications). Just a quick "me too" message: patchset fro

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-10-28 Thread Ed Schouten
Hello Carlos, * Carlos A. M. dos Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The patched source builds and installs flawlessy. However I observed > something that seems to be a regression. If I run either xconsole or > xterm -C I only see kernel messages, even though my X startup (via > XDM) changes the o

Re: [Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-10-27 Thread Carlos A. M. dos Santos
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Ed Schouten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Most of you probably already know that I've been very busy improving our > kernel's TTY implementation. I've committed the new MPSAFE TTY layer > back in August. So far most of the things seem to work prop

[Testers wanted] /dev/console cleanups

2008-10-26 Thread Ed Schouten
Hello everyone, Most of you probably already know that I've been very busy improving our kernel's TTY implementation. I've committed the new MPSAFE TTY layer back in August. So far most of the things seem to work properly as far as I can see. There are always some small bugs, but I'm confident we'