Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-19 Thread John Baldwin
On Monday, July 18, 2011 3:40:19 am Doug Barton wrote: > On 07/17/2011 20:40, Devin Teske wrote: > > What release are you running? > > Recent HEAD I upgraded my desktop at home to HEAD yesterday and tested this via a 'boot kernel.GENERIC' at the loader prompt and it did the same as the previous

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-18 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/17/2011 20:40, Devin Teske wrote: > What release are you running? Recent HEAD -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) h

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-17 Thread Devin Teske
Hi Doug, On Jul 17, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > There also seems to be a bug with the new boot loader that if you bounce > out to the prompt and do 'boot kernel.other' the kern.module_path sysctl > is not updated. It still lists /boot/kernel first; but that should be > replaced by /boo

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-17 Thread Devin Teske
On Jul 17, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > There also seems to be a bug with the new boot loader that if you bounce > out to the prompt and do 'boot kernel.other' Hmmm... The last change to the FICL word "boot" was 10 years, 9 months ago, by dcs in version 1.19 of sys/boot/forth/loader.4

Re: FW: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-17 Thread Doug Barton
There also seems to be a bug with the new boot loader that if you bounce out to the prompt and do 'boot kernel.other' the kern.module_path sysctl is not updated. It still lists /boot/kernel first; but that should be replaced by /boot/kernel.other. -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but noth

FW: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-17 Thread Teske, Devin
-Original Message- From: Devin Teske [mailto:dte...@vicor.com] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 4:45 PM To: 'Andrey Fesenko'; 'freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org' Cc: Julian Elischer; Teske, Devin (devin.te...@fisglobal.com) Subject: RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs? >

[RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu bugs?

2011-07-17 Thread Andrey Fesenko
Last Changed Rev: 224125 Not update share/examples/bootforth/* any files old version loader. file sys/boot/forth/loader.conf ## ### Loader settings ##

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-29 Thread Devin Teske
On May 29, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 5/29/11 2:53 PM, Devin Teske wrote: >> On May 4, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Devin Teske wrote: >> >>> On May 3, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: >>> Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote:

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-29 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/29/11 2:53 PM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Devin Teske wrote: On May 3, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-29 Thread Devin Teske
On May 4, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Devin Teske wrote: > > On May 3, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > >> >> Devin, >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: >>> Devin, On

[RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.6

2011-05-19 Thread Devin Teske
Hi Hackers, I'm pleased to announce version 1.6 of my new boot loader menu software. NOTE: Version 1.6 has the same look and feel as version 1.5. No new screenshots needed. This is a general cleanup with the below notable changes: 1. Change chkpassword.4th to query "password" environment varia

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-16 Thread Tom Evans
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 16/05/2011 14:34 Tom Evans said the following: >> I disagree entirely, the boot loader knows nothing of kernels > > Eh?  Maybe I misunderstand what you are saying, but: > > set kernel=kernel.old > boot > > IMHO, it shows that you can tell t

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-16 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 16/05/2011 14:34 Tom Evans said the following: > I disagree entirely, the boot loader knows nothing of kernels Eh? Maybe I misunderstand what you are saying, but: set kernel=kernel.old boot IMHO, it shows that you can tell the loader about kernels. Having a kernel-choice sub-menu would be co

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-16 Thread Tom Evans
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > My main idea is that the present Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5 is a very > good menu . Instead of destroying its elegant structure , the already > available FreeBSD Boot Loader ( actually Kernel selection ) menu could be > improved

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-14 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Devin Teske wrote: > On May 14, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk < > m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Michael Reifenberger < > m...@reifenberger.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> this looks very promising! >> >> While you are worki

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-14 Thread Devin Teske
On May 14, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Michael Reifenberger > wrote: > Hi, > this looks very promising! > > While you are working on the loader front currently, > would it be possible to implement a "Boot kernel.old" > menue item that unlo

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-14 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Michael Reifenberger wrote: > Hi, > this looks very promising! > > While you are working on the loader front currently, > would it be possible to implement a "Boot kernel.old" > menue item that unloads all current loaded modules and re-loads > everithing from /boo

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-14 Thread Michael Reifenberger
Hi, this looks very promising! While you are working on the loader front currently, would it be possible to implement a "Boot kernel.old" menue item that unloads all current loaded modules and re-loads everithing from /boot/kernel.old? Its difficult to handle manually in the loader (esp. handlin

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-13 Thread Devin Teske
lischer (jelisc...@fusionio.com); 'Warner > Losh' > Subject: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5 > > Happy to bring to you version 1.5 of my loader_menu package. This version > incorporates the suggestions first made by Lan Qing and then re-affirmed by (in- > o

[RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5

2011-05-13 Thread Devin Teske
Happy to bring to you version 1.5 of my loader_menu package. This version incorporates the suggestions first made by Lan Qing and then re-affirmed by (in-order) Alexander Leidinger, Dieter BSD, and Julian Elischer (whom brings word from the devsummit as well as Warner Losh): you guys want to separa

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-08 Thread Dieter BSD
> There's really only room for one or two more menu items. Perhaps some items could be moved to a 2nd level menu? 1) boot multiuser mode ( default ) 2) boot single user mode 3) menu to set boot options 4) help Would be nice: a fix for having to lean on a key autorepeating for a couple

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-04 Thread Devin Teske
On May 3, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > > Devin, > > > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: >> >> On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: >> >>> >>> Devin, >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: >>>

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-05-03 Thread Jason Hellenthal
Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:45:14PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: > >On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > >> >> Devin, >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: >>> Would be nice: "uname -v" of the kernel it will boot. >>> >>> That's a bi

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Devin Teske
On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > > Devin, > > > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: >> >>> Would be nice: "uname -v" of the kernel it will boot. >> >> That's a bit more technically challenging. I'll have another look at the >> FICL words availab

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Devin Teske
On Apr 30, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Dieter BSD wrote: >> Already on the to-do list is to support ``loader_logo=...'' in >> /boot/loader.conf > > Including an option for no logo? (For consoles that are slow and/or > small, and for people that just don't like the logos.) The current behavior -- with wha

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Jason Hellenthal
Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: > >> Would be nice: "uname -v" of the kernel it will boot. > >That's a bit more technically challenging. I'll have another look at the >FICL words available, but I don't recall if there was a way to crawl the >object space of th

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Dieter BSD
> Already on the to-do list is to support ``loader_logo=...'' in > /boot/loader.conf Including an option for no logo? (For consoles that are slow and/or small, and for people that just don't like the logos.) >> Putting brackets around letters (and numbers) sounds good. >> If there is room, perhap

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Devin Teske
> -Original Message- > From: owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > hack...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dieter BSD > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:28 PM > To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu > >

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Dieter BSD
[ attempt #2 - grumble - sorry about the blank message, hope it works this time - grumble- ] > I hope that works for serial console.  VT100 may be a reasonable > default in that case, but it would be good to make sure that menu > works even on a dumb terminal. Perhaps we should put 'key' letter >

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Dieter BSD
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Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-30 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:55:12 -0700 "Devin Teske" wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Alexander Leidinger [mailto:alexan...@leidinger.net] > > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:34 PM > > To: Devin Teske > > Cc: 'Mike Meyer'; 'Free

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Artem Belevich
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 04/29/2011 20:34, Warren Block wrote: >> >> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Devin Teske wrote: >> >>> I'm still leaning toward just making the "V" in "Verbose" and "S" in >>> "Single >>> User" bolded. >> >> Why not just underline hotkey characters? Tha

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 04/29/2011 20:34, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Devin Teske wrote: I'm still leaning toward just making the "V" in "Verbose" and "S" in "Single User" bolded. Why not just underline hotkey characters? That's already a well-known standard in lots of places. Agreed, that's a much

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Devin Teske wrote: I'm still leaning toward just making the "V" in "Verbose" and "S" in "Single User" bolded. Why not just underline hotkey characters? That's already a well-known standard in lots of places. ___ freebsd-hacker

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:02:03 -0700 "Devin Teske" wrote: > I was thinking that what we ought to do is support *both* numbers > *and* letters. Sounds good to me. > I envision the menuitem numbers remaining unchanged (1-7), allowing > those familiar with the numbers to use them. > > However, as f

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
> -Original Message- > From: Olivier SMEDTS [mailto:oliv...@gid0.org] > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:09 PM > To: Devin Teske > Cc: Freddie Cash; FreeBSD Hackers > Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu > > Le 29 avr. 2011 à 21:17, Devin Teske a écrit

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
> -Original Message- > From: Alexander Leidinger [mailto:alexan...@leidinger.net] > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:34 PM > To: Devin Teske > Cc: 'Mike Meyer'; 'FreeBSD Hackers' > Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu > > On Fri, 29 Ap

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Olivier SMEDTS
Le 29 avr. 2011 à 21:17, Devin Teske a écrit : >> -Original Message- >> From: Freddie Cash [mailto:fjwc...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:20 AM >> To: Devin Teske >> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers >> Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu >

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
> -Original Message- > From: Mike Meyer [mailto:m...@mired.org] > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:24 PM > To: Devin Teske > Cc: 'FreeBSD Hackers' > Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu > > On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:02:03 -0700 > "Devin

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Mike Meyer
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:02:03 -0700 "Devin Teske" wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Mike Meyer [mailto:m...@mired.org] > > I'd like to revisit the numbers vs. letters for menu options. IIRC (and I > > may > not), > > an earlier version used letters for the menu options, and people ob

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
> -Original Message- > From: Freddie Cash [mailto:fjwc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:20 AM > To: Devin Teske > Cc: FreeBSD Hackers > Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu > > Very nice and functional, without adding a lot of extra verbosit

RE: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Devin Teske
> -Original Message- > From: Mike Meyer [mailto:m...@mired.org] > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:08 AM > To: Devin Teske > Cc: FreeBSD Hackers > Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu > > On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:11 -0700 > Devin Teske wrote:

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Freddie Cash
Very nice and functional, without adding a lot of extra verbosity or steps. I really appreciated the clean install via binary package. Well done. Only question I have is whether it's possible to use the Beastie ASCII image instead of the pointy-eared blob? The beastie.4th file is still present u

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Warner Losh
Why not both? Warner On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Mike Meyer wrote: > On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:11 -0700 > Devin Teske wrote: > >> Hello fellow hackers, >> >> I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped >> FreeBSD boot loader menu. >> >> Here's a detailed

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-29 Thread Mike Meyer
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:11 -0700 Devin Teske wrote: > Hello fellow hackers, > > I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped > FreeBSD boot loader menu. > > Here's a detailed discussion of the release complete with pictures: > http://devinteske.com/new-freebsd

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-25 Thread Eitan Adler
> I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped > FreeBSD boot loader menu. Woot! Community contributions under a useful license :-) > Here's the download: > http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/download/loader_menu-1.0.tgz Painless installation - thanks! >> And upon

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-25 Thread Devin Teske
On Apr 25, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: >> I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped >> FreeBSD boot loader menu. > > Woot! Community contributions under a useful license :-) > >> Here's the download: >> http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/download/loader

Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-25 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:11 -0700 Devin Teske wrote: > I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the > revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. > > Here's a detailed discussion of the release complete with pictures: > http://devinteske.com/new-freebsd-boot-loader-menu > > Here

[RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu

2011-04-24 Thread Devin Teske
Hello fellow hackers, I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. Here's a detailed discussion of the release complete with pictures: http://devinteske.com/new-freebsd-boot-loader-menu Here's the download: http://druidbsd.sourceforge.ne