Re: [PATCH] Support for thresholds in du(1)

2010-02-04 Thread Jason A. Spiro
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:30 PM, jhell wrote: > I like it!. It looks like a really useful option. Though if you really need to free up a lot of space, try a Freshmeat search[1] for [ disk usage ]. It reveals many tools that look even better, including ncdu[2] which doesn't require Xorg. But I d

Re: Suggestion: rename "killall" to "fkill", but wait five years to phase the new name in

2009-12-22 Thread Jason A. Spiro
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > And yet there is ZERO interest in changing this in FreeBSD. As you can see elsewhere in this thread, I am discussing it with Xin. So far, both he and the Linux killall maintainer have said "no", but I am using rational arguments to try to con

Re: Suggestion: rename "killall" to "fkill", but wait five years to phase the new name in

2009-12-22 Thread Jason A. Spiro
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > Seriously, it's not our problem if solaris did something stupid. Actually, it looks like the mistake was made by Linux and FreeBSD developers. SunOS had[1] killall in 1992, and maybe earlier. Craig said the earliest copyright date on Linux

Re: Suggestion: rename "killall" to "fkill", but wait five years to phase the new name in

2009-12-22 Thread Jason A. Spiro
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Jason A. Spiro wrote: [snip] > Xin, I'd like to discuss this issue with you by some means other than > email. Followup to my earlier message: Thanks for sending me a private mail with your Jabber address. I added you. But then I saw your most recen

Re: Suggestion: rename "killall" to "fkill", but wait five years to phase the new name in

2009-12-22 Thread Jason A. Spiro
Hi Xin, On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Xin LI wrote: > I'm afraid that it's too late to change either parties, i.e. there > would be a lot of scripts that rely on the BSD or Linux behavior, etc. That is why I suggested that you first show a warning message for five years, then do the renaming

Re: Suggestion: rename "killall" to "fkill", but wait five years to phase the new name in

2009-12-22 Thread Jason A. Spiro
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:18 AM, Xin LI wrote: > > No. > > killall is not part of standard, and, just because System V choose to > implement that way, does not warrant that FreeBSD has to.  Moreover, > user can always alias /sbin/killall to 'fkill' and 'kill -15 -1' to > 'killall' if they really w

Suggestion: rename "killall" to "fkill", but wait five years to phase the new name in

2009-12-21 Thread Jason A. Spiro
Dear Craig, thanks for maintaining the "killall" command on Linux. Dear hackers, thanks for maintaining it on FreeBSD. Naming it the same as System V killall, which just kills all processes, can wreak havoc. When someone types a standard Linux killall command line as root on a Solaris or HP-UX se