Re: Need advice on sys5 shm and zero copy sockets

2013-04-02 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 2 April 2013 20:07, Julian Elischer wrote: > this sound somewhat like what I did back in the 90s with BSD4.3 > unfortunately it was not done with TCP (or sctp of course) > > what we did was to create a special shared memeory device driver. > Then we added ioctls to the disk driver layer to wri

Re: Need advice on sys5 shm and zero copy sockets

2013-04-02 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/8/13 4:22 AM, gary mazzaferro wrote: Hi, I was told to post this question here (Ken Merry), it would be a good place to get some help. I'm not sure this is doable without a kernel module, which I don't want to add. I'll explain what I'm attempting.. I'm designing a high speed rest motor f

Re: preemptive kernel

2013-04-02 Thread vasanth rao naik sabavat
Thanks John, That is helpful. On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:33 PM, John Baldwin wrote: > On Friday, March 22, 2013 4:10:16 pm vasanth rao naik sabavat wrote: > > Hi Adrian, > > > > Just to clarify, is the kernel pre-emption involuntary? > > > > Let say I have a kernel thread processing a huge list of

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
As far I can tell it's now April 2nd in all time zones. Can we now end this thread? thank you, -Alfred On 4/2/13 6:22 AM, Paul Schenkeveld wrote: On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 10:22:20AM +, Ruben de Groot wrote: On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 03:10:56AM -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk typed: On Tue, Ap

Re: Need advice on sys5 shm and zero copy sockets

2013-04-02 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/8/13 4:22 AM, gary mazzaferro wrote: Hi, I was told to post this question here (Ken Merry), it would be a good place to get some help. I'm not sure this is doable without a kernel module, which I don't want to add. I'll explain what I'm attempting.. I'm designing a high speed rest motor f

Re: boot time crash in if_detach_internal()

2013-04-02 Thread Chris Torek
>Not sure if the right answer is for drivers not to call ether_ifattach() >until the point-of-no-failure (lots of drivers are wrong then) or >initialize other parts earlier. The other "obvious" method is to rearrange the sysinit priorities (/sys/sys/kernel.h) so that all network domains are initia

Re: boot time crash in if_detach_internal()

2013-04-02 Thread Chris Torek
>Can you provide a backtrace that leads to this? Sure. In case it's not obvious, the __rw_rlock at the top of the trace is working on a lock that has never been initialized (the first of the two ipv4 PCBs). Chris Booting... GDB: no debug ports present KDB: debugger backends: ddb KDB: current ba

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Chris BeHanna
Goodness gracious, did no one see the date on the original post? What's the limit on this fishing hole? -- Chris BeHanna ch...@behanna.org ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ha

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Warner Losh
On Apr 2, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Chris BeHanna wrote: > Goodness gracious, did no one see the date on the original post? > > What's the limit on this fishing hole? Three internet Trolls, two wise old owls and a april fool in a pear tree from the looks of it. Warner __

Re: boot time crash in if_detach_internal()

2013-04-02 Thread Bryan Venteicher
Hi, - Original Message - > From: "Gleb Smirnoff" > To: "Chris Torek" > Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 3:57:08 AM > Subject: Re: boot time crash in if_detach_internal() > > On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 03:45:19AM -0600, Chris Torek wrote: > C> I have been poki

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Paul Schenkeveld
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 10:22:20AM +, Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 03:10:56AM -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk typed: > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote: > > > > > Wojciech Puchar writes: > > > > Lev Serebryakov writes: > > > > > It is not exact so

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Warner Losh
On Apr 2, 2013, at 4:10 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > >> Wojciech Puchar writes: >>> Lev Serebryakov writes: It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some firmwares are 64-bit CPU. >>> don't know of an

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Mehmet Erol Sanliturk writes: > > I am NOT able to understand the merit of these products with respect > > to their features and PRICES. > > Please stop SHOUTING, and learn to accept and respect the fact that > other people have other

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk writes: > I am NOT able to understand the merit of these products with respect > to their features and PRICES. Please stop SHOUTING, and learn to accept and respect the fact that other people have other opinions and priorities than you do, and to stop trying to force your wo

Call for FreeBSD 2013-Q1 status reports!

2013-04-02 Thread Isabell Long
Hi all, On behalf of monthly@, I would like to inform you that the next submission date for the January to March quarterly status reports is April 21st, 2013 - less than a month away. They don't have to be very long - anything that lets people know what is going on inside FreeBSD is useful. Note

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Achim Hut
Am 02.04.2013 12:13, schrieb Kimmo Paasiala: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Wojciech Puchar writes: Lev Serebryakov writes: It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some firmwares are

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 03:10:56AM -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk typed: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote: > > > Wojciech Puchar writes: > > > Lev Serebryakov writes: > > > > It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some > > > > firmwares are 64-bit CPU

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Achim Hut wrote: > Am 02.04.2013 12:13, schrieb Kimmo Paasiala: > >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk >> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >>> Wojciech Puchar writes: > > Lev Serebryakov w

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > >> Wojciech Puchar writes: >> > Lev Serebryakov writes: >> > > It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some >> > > firmwares are 64-bit CPU. >> > don't kn

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Wojciech Puchar writes: > > Lev Serebryakov writes: > > > It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some > > > firmwares are 64-bit CPU. > > don't know of any now in shops that are not > > http://soekris.com/products/ne

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Dag-Erling. You wrote 2 апреля 2013 г., 13:04:04: DES> http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html This one is 64-bit capable according to their mailing list -- // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http:

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Wojciech Puchar writes: > Lev Serebryakov writes: > > It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some > > firmwares are 64-bit CPU. > don't know of any now in shops that are not http://soekris.com/products/net5501.html http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html DES -- Dag-Erling Sm

Re: boot time crash in if_detach_internal()

2013-04-02 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 03:45:19AM -0600, Chris Torek wrote: C> I have been poking about with the bhyve virtualization code in C> FreeBSD 10-current, and managed to crash FreeBSD during its C> bootstrap process due to the fact that if_detach is called C> from boot time configuration code, before th

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Roger Pau Monné
On 01/04/13 20:31, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Why stop there? > > Noone runs FreeBSD on real hardware anymore. Except, say netflix. > > Let's just drop actual native hardware support and instead support > only the bare minimum needed to boot inside vmware, virtualbox and > xen. > > Anyone needing rea