Re: Under FREEBSD network control.

2012-07-17 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 18 jul. 2012, at 05:17, cz li wrote: > I would like to build a bridge using FREEBSD system.At the same time, > they can do the network traffic control.How to do it? Check the handbook - or, easier, do 'man bridge' and see the last example in the section 'examples'. Dw. ___

Re: Under FREEBSD network control.

2012-07-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Wednesday 18 July 2012 10:17:31 cz li wrote: > I would like to build a bridge using FREEBSD system.At the same time, > they can do the network traffic control.How to do it? if I remember right, it is all in the handbook. You might also check man rc.conf and man ifconfig We will help you

Under FREEBSD network control.

2012-07-17 Thread cz li
I would like to build a bridge using FREEBSD system.At the same time, they can do the network traffic control.How to do it? thank you! ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, s

Re: Resistance to documentation? (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-17 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/17/2012 03:38 PM, Dave Hayes wrote: > On 07/17/12 15:14, Doug Barton wrote: >>> Some sources of this are: I rarely read the handbook >> >> So now that we've discussed *our* shortcomings, let's discuss yours. :) >> Read the handbook. Seriously. > > I should have written that better. I *do* re

Re: Resistance to documentation? (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-17 Thread Dave Hayes
On 07/17/12 15:14, Doug Barton wrote: Some sources of this are: I rarely read the handbook So now that we've discussed *our* shortcomings, let's discuss yours. :) Read the handbook. Seriously. I should have written that better. I *do* read the handbook; check the conjunction. I said: "I rar

Re: Resistance to documentation? (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-17 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/17/2012 01:56 PM, Dave Hayes wrote: > I've been using FreeBSD since the 90s. My perception (over many years of > observation) is that the FreeBSD people most able to document what > exists and how to use it seem to also have the greatest resistance to > writing any documentation. Writing co

Re: Resistance to documentation? (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-17 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 01:56:33PM -0700, Dave Hayes wrote: > I've been using FreeBSD since the 90s. My perception (over many > years of observation) is that the FreeBSD people most able to > document what exists and how to use it seem to also have the > greatest resistance to writing any documenta

Resistance to documentation? (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-17 Thread Dave Hayes
On 07/17/12 12:35, Mike Meyer wrote: I'm not going to do this - this is the kind of thing that makes me loathe Linux. But if you want this functionality in your/the base system, your first step is clear - write the WTF program! Until that exists, the rest is just pointless debating. I think thi

Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?

2012-07-17 Thread Mike Meyer
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:32:19 -0400 "Dieter BSD" wrote: > >> Why not create a command wtf(1)? > > there are really lot of good features that can be made in FreeBSD. > > actually good, instead of that crap > While this is certainly not the most important improvement that could > be made (Fix the PRs

Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?

2012-07-17 Thread Dieter BSD
>> Why not create a command wtf(1)? >> > there are really lot of good features that can be made in FreeBSD. > actually good, instead of that crap While this is certainly not the most important improvement that could be made (Fix the PRs!), the proposed wtf command could be useful. And, importantly

Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?

2012-07-17 Thread Dave Hayes
On 07/16/12 22:45, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Why not create a command wtf(1)? there are really lot of good features that can be made in FreeBSD. actually good, instead of that crap Unless you have some objective, measurable, and quantifiable definition of "crap", your judgement is a subjective

Using mcelog

2012-07-17 Thread Mark Saad
All I wanted to see how users of mcelog were implementing it on FreeBSD . My Linux servers tend to run it via cron hourly and dump the results to syslog or a local log file . For now I am going to make a similar setup . Does using it as a daemon provide anything running it via cron can't ? Are

Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?

2012-07-17 Thread Eduardo Morras
At 11:25 17/07/2012, Wojciech Puchar wrote: the behavior of shells is an even worse idea than turning this nanny behavior on for everyone. Add sysctl for apps is a no-no, sysctl is for system control, not userland still this stupid idea topics continue? Is FreeBSD finally intended to be unix

Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?

2012-07-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar
the behavior of shells is an even worse idea than turning this nanny behavior on for everyone. Add sysctl for apps is a no-no, sysctl is for system control, not userland still this stupid idea topics continue? Is FreeBSD finally intended to be unix implementation or feature war with linux/win

Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?

2012-07-17 Thread Eduardo Morras
At 19:15 05/07/2012, Mike Meyer wrote: On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 13:09:44 -0400 Jason Hellenthal wrote: > On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 06:19:31PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > As long as it can be toggled off system-wide, persistently (sysctl?), I > > can't see the harm in bringing that in. > Haha sysct