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Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:28:44 -0800 Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > It's been in my tradition for Unix developement since 1986 when I
: > first joined comp.unix
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: It has happened. But from my pers
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:28:44 -0800 Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's been in my tradition for Unix developement since 1986 when I
> first joined comp.unix
It has happened. But from my perspective, what happened going from v6
to v7 tends to be the rule, and your tradition is the ex
Mike Meyer wrote:
What's ridiculous? That the only limit is the developers definition of
"trivial"? Care to provide another one? That OS X turned /bin/sh into
bash? I'd agree that that's ridiculous, except it's a fact. That they
did it to make OS X more compatible with Linux? Would you like me
Instead of all the debate about GNU compatibility and the fact that the
patch adds a feature not readily available, why not improve FreeBSD's
find without caring about GNU's find? I have not seen a way to capture
output from a command and compare it to another command. Imagine
something conce
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 02:01:14PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> ... I'll submit a PR for the whole thing. We can hash out
> details/improvements there.
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=121064
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On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:03:05PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> I'll have to get the qemu stuff set up so I can test this more easily.
I re-thought the method a bit, and went with something slightly more
hackish, plus added code to deal with the case where one uses -h or -Dh
in /boot.config (th
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> I have a lot more reading to do on the subject of Forth. Stacks are
> hardly a new concept to me, but the conditions where Forth puts
> something onto the stack are. I've never worked with a language like
> this before (at least RPN doesn't frustrate me!). I've alrea
Good day.
I am posting the follow-up to the -hackers and CC'ing to the
-security, because some more-or-less nasty points were found.
Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:32:02PM +0300, Eygene Ryabinkin wrote:
> But there is another concern with bzero(): it is well-known function.
> Especially for compilers.
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 06:38:38PM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> There's a debugging aid called "testmain" so you can run
> Forth code interactively in multi-user mode for testing
> purposes. For details please read the thread starting
> here:
>
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable
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Stanislav Sedov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: Should be, probably, spelled as GNU, it's an abbrev.
Actually, you are right, but for the wrong reason. GNU is an acronym,
so should be all caps.
: > -/* c_simple covers c_prune, c_openparen, c_closeparen,
Hi.
pdksh and derivatives (openbsd ksh, mirbsd mksh etc) all have
the same "bug" with regards to jails. On all of my systems, trying
to start *ksh in a jail results in a message that /dev/tty could
not be opened (device busy) and that the shell will not have
job control. For some reason, this make
On Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 11:48:05PM -0700 Deomid Ryabkov mentioned:
> Having noted that with time my understanding of how VM works in FreeBSD
> has somewhat blurred (not to say that it was ever complete),
> I reckoned it's time to go and read up on it.
>
> Thus I wonder, what relevance the "Design
Christopher Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Bill Moran wrote:
>
> > Or laptop vendors could make "secure" laptops that always lose memory
> > on shutdown.
> >
> That dosn't really change anything, just don't shutdown the laptop.
It reduces the risk greatly when co
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:03:08AM -0700 M. Warner Losh mentioned:
>
> Comments?
>
> Warner
>
> Index: find.1
> ===
> RCS file: /cache/ncvs/src/usr.bin/find/find.1,v
> retrieving revision 1.82
> diff -u -r1.82 find.1
> --- find.1
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> So I've finally gotten around to attempting a feature I mentionted back
> in June 2007: using ASCII line-drawing characters for the borders around
> beastie/fbsdlogo in frames.4th:
>
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2007-June/020851.html
>
> I w
"Igor Mozolevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 24/02/2008, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Igor Mozolevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 23/02/2008, Brooks Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You should actually read the paper. :) They successful
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Bill Moran wrote:
Or laptop vendors could make "secure" laptops that always lose memory
on shutdown.
That dosn't really change anything, just don't shutdown the laptop.
Cut an opening in the case and attach a probe to monitor memory access and
wait for the key being ac
"Igor Mozolevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 23/02/2008, Brooks Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > You should actually read the paper. :) They successfully defeat both
> > of these type of protections by using canned air to chill the ram and
> > transplanting it into another machi
On 24/02/2008, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Igor Mozolevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 23/02/2008, Brooks Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > You should actually read the paper. :) They successfully defeat both
> > > of these type of protections by using
So I've finally gotten around to attempting a feature I mentionted back
in June 2007: using ASCII line-drawing characters for the borders around
beastie/fbsdlogo in frames.4th:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2007-June/020851.html
I was hoping there might be some folks familiar
On Sunday 24 February 2008 01:48, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> The change absolutely makes sense, and so far none of the arguments
> against it are really worth the time to respond to. I'm using
> packages not in the ports system. Frankly, the more gratuitous
> differences with the gnu tools we have,
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Warner Losh wrote:
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agree.
Or course, we may need to adopt features from bash into our /bin/sh as
time marches forward.
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i'll disagree on this one. linux (that i've seen) uses a symlink from sh
to bash. if you execute /bin/sh, it's running bash. if you
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Mike Meyer wrote:
The problem with this argument is that there are no limits on it, other
than the developers definition of "trivial". OS X has already carried
this argument to the point that they've replaced /bin/sh with bash.
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i've seen that on li
G'day,
I was just wondering why we're not shipping a GENERIC type
configuration that simply loads the modules at startup, rather than a
statically linked kernel. I thought that was a large part of the push
for the modular framework in years past.
As a quick experiment, I trimmed all the modular d
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