Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread soralx
> # make world > WARNING: make world will overwrite your existing FreeBSD > installation without also building and installing a new > kernel. This can be dangerous. Please read the handbook, > 'Rebuilding world', for how to upgrade your system. > Define DESTDIR to where you want to install FreeB

How TLS is used in Kernel thread

2007-08-30 Thread Jin Guojun
By looking through _pthread_create() code and find it uses a magic cookie -- TLS -- created by rtld_allocate_tls(), and passed into kernel by sysarch() via _tcb_set() / _kcb_set(). The information seems to be set by rtld (ld-elf.so.1) in digest_phdr() under tag PT_TLS. But it is very magic for

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Matthieu Michaud
On Aug 30, 2007, at 9:57 PM, Pietro Cerutti wrote: Doug Barton wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Pietro Cerutti wrote: I don't want my OS to treat me like a stupid. These changes were made because of the long history of user help requests from people who aren't as smart as you who shot themsel

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Thursday, 30 August 2007 at 21:20:13 +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > # make world > WARNING: make world will overwrite your existing FreeBSD > installation, kill your cat and burn your house down... > > Now, THIS is quite funny... do you really thing that a person with > - root access > - the kno

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Pietro Cerutti
Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 09:20:13PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: >> # make world >> WARNING: make world will overwrite your existing FreeBSD >> installation without also building and installing a new >> kernel. This can be dangerous. Please read the handbook, >> 'Rebuilding

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 09:20:13PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > # make world > WARNING: make world will overwrite your existing FreeBSD > installation without also building and installing a new > kernel. This can be dangerous. Please read the handbook, > 'Rebuilding world', for how to upgrade y

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Pietro Cerutti
Matthieu Michaud wrote: > > On Aug 30, 2007, at 9:57 PM, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > >> Doug Barton wrote: >>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Pietro Cerutti wrote: >>> I don't want my OS to treat me like a stupid. >>> >>> These changes were made because of the long history of user help >>> requests from

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Freddie Cash
On August 30, 2007 12:41 pm Mike Meyer wrote: > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:27:18 +0200 Pietro Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Max Laier wrote: > > > On Thursday 30 August 2007, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > >> # make world > > >> WARNING: make world will overwrite your existing FreeBSD > > >> instal

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Freddie Cash
On August 30, 2007 12:49 pm Pietro Cerutti wrote: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:27:18 +0200 Pietro Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Max Laier wrote: > >>> On Thursday 30 August 2007, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > # make world > WARNING: make world will overwrite your ex

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Pietro Cerutti wrote: I don't want my OS to treat me like a stupid. These changes were made because of the long history of user help requests from people who aren't as smart as you who shot themselves in the foot. If you don't need the protection, so much the better for

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Pietro Cerutti
Doug Barton wrote: > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > >> I don't want my OS to treat me like a stupid. > > These changes were made because of the long history of user help > requests from people who aren't as smart as you who shot themselves in > the foot. If you don't need the protec

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Pietro Cerutti
Mike Meyer wrote: > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:27:18 +0200 Pietro Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Max Laier wrote: >>> On Thursday 30 August 2007, Pietro Cerutti wrote: # make world WARNING: make world will overwrite your existing FreeBSD installation without also building and i

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Yuri Pankov
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 03:41:29PM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote: > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:27:18 +0200 Pietro Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Max Laier wrote: > > > On Thursday 30 August 2007, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > >> # make world > > >> WARNING: make world will overwrite your existing Free

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Mike Meyer
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:27:18 +0200 Pietro Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Max Laier wrote: > > On Thursday 30 August 2007, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > >> # make world > >> WARNING: make world will overwrite your existing FreeBSD > >> installation without also building and installing a new > >> ke

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Pietro Cerutti
Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz wrote: > Pietro Cerutti wrote: >> # make world > >> >> Now, THIS is quite funny... do you really thing that a person with >> - root access >> - the knowledge of the existence of "make world" >> needs this sort of things? >> >> I didn't see anything about this new-wave-o

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz
Pietro Cerutti wrote: # make world Now, THIS is quite funny... do you really thing that a person with - root access - the knowledge of the existence of "make world" needs this sort of things? I didn't see anything about this new-wave-of-user-friendly-bsd going on the list.. have I missed som

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Pietro Cerutti
Max Laier wrote: > On Thursday 30 August 2007, Pietro Cerutti wrote: >> # make world >> WARNING: make world will overwrite your existing FreeBSD >> installation without also building and installing a new >> kernel. This can be dangerous. Please read the handbook, >> 'Rebuilding world', for how to

Re: what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Max Laier
On Thursday 30 August 2007, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > # make world > WARNING: make world will overwrite your existing FreeBSD > installation without also building and installing a new > kernel. This can be dangerous. Please read the handbook, > 'Rebuilding world', for how to upgrade your system. >

what happened to make world?

2007-08-30 Thread Pietro Cerutti
# make world WARNING: make world will overwrite your existing FreeBSD installation without also building and installing a new kernel. This can be dangerous. Please read the handbook, 'Rebuilding world', for how to upgrade your system. Define DESTDIR to where you want to install FreeBSD, including

Re: two-way terminal multiplexing

2007-08-30 Thread Victor Loureiro Lima
I would go for watch(8), I used it today, pretty straight forward... victor ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: two-way terminal multiplexing

2007-08-30 Thread Lou Kamenov
On 8/30/07, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 03:18:10PM +0100, djembe nazar wrote: > > Thanks for all suggestions. > > > > GNU screen appears to be the most straightforward > > option as it handles the complexity of non-identical > > terminals. > > And does it ve

Re: two-way terminal multiplexing

2007-08-30 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 03:18:10PM +0100, djembe nazar wrote: > Thanks for all suggestions. > > GNU screen appears to be the most straightforward > option as it handles the complexity of non-identical > terminals. And does it very badly, I might add. -- | Jeremy Chadwick

Re: two-way terminal multiplexing

2007-08-30 Thread Markus Boelter
Hi! > > The intention is to have two terminals, one above the other. > > The bottom terminal shows one's own commands and output like > > an ordinary xterm whilst the top terminal shows the commands > > and output of a peer (such as an instructor). You can also have a look at the "script" utility

Re: two-way terminal multiplexing

2007-08-30 Thread djembe nazar
Thanks for all suggestions. GNU screen appears to be the most straightforward option as it handles the complexity of non-identical terminals. -- D.N ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers T

Re: two-way terminal multiplexing

2007-08-30 Thread Simias
Tom Judge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Simias wrote: >> "djembe nazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> I am trying to work out a way to do the following for a >>> "FreeBSD teaching environment": >>> >>> The intention is to have two terminals, one above the other. >>> The bottom terminal shows

Re: two-way terminal multiplexing

2007-08-30 Thread Pietro Cerutti
djembe nazar wrote: > I am trying to work out a way to do the following for a > "FreeBSD teaching environment": > > The intention is to have two terminals, one above the other. > The bottom terminal shows one's own commands and output like > an ordinary xterm whilst the top terminal shows the comm

Re: two-way terminal multiplexing (fwd)

2007-08-30 Thread Julian Stacey
"djembe nazar" wrote: > I am trying to work out a way to do the following for a > "FreeBSD teaching environment": Hi, I only quicklu skimmed your post, dont have time for optimal answer, but be aware of these commands/ tools: script tail -f typescript xauth xhost Th

Re: two-way terminal multiplexing

2007-08-30 Thread Tom Judge
Simias wrote: "djembe nazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I am trying to work out a way to do the following for a "FreeBSD teaching environment": The intention is to have two terminals, one above the other. The bottom terminal shows one's own commands and output like an ordinary xterm whilst th

Re: two-way terminal multiplexing

2007-08-30 Thread Simias
"djembe nazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am trying to work out a way to do the following for a > "FreeBSD teaching environment": > > The intention is to have two terminals, one above the other. > The bottom terminal shows one's own commands and output like > an ordinary xterm whilst the top

two-way terminal multiplexing

2007-08-30 Thread djembe nazar
I am trying to work out a way to do the following for a "FreeBSD teaching environment": The intention is to have two terminals, one above the other. The bottom terminal shows one's own commands and output like an ordinary xterm whilst the top terminal shows the commands and output of a peer (such